The Horse at bottom-right (6D) has shades
of Airfix Cuirassier about him. No?
Saturday, January 14, 2017
U is for Unknown Ancient Metal Figures
That is - that they represent, not are,
although in war-gaming terms some of them may be pretty old too!
The guy on the left looks like some of my Garrison, but he's not marked in any way
and was sufficiently unalike them to remain out of their box! The two to the
right could be Minifigs?
Mixed makers, mixed eras, I'd particularly
like to ID the Viking/Carolingian type as he's from my old childhood 'generic'
barbarian army and stood next to but towering above the pig-on-a-stick man from
Airfix!
Three more from that army, and
cock-on-a-stick stood the other side! I believe the foot javelin-thrower is
from the same maker as the mounted figures?
Probably all Vikings, probably from the
same maker as the standard-bearer above, but not necessarily, do you know who
they are? I don't know why I never pained one of the spear throwers, maybe they
came separately; later?
Another mixed lot - 5B and 5C may be from
the same artillery/siege-engine crew? I particularly like 5E who has adopted
the old 'flats' trick of having removable parts for a choice of two weapons; a
javelin or an axe.
The Persian-looking cavalry man was one of
three 'auxiliaries' in my Greco-Roman army (which fought the barbarians), two
having been ID'd (so are in storage) along with one of the horses, the others
are here - painted.
Another of mine in need of crest-glue and a
few others, anyone got any ideas? 7B, marked AGR 5 (Ancient Greek?) has a different
headdress to the otherwise similar figure in the next picture . . .
. .
. but I think the difference is only paint? The rest of these belong in later
posts, but have ended-up here because of the foot archer. Four Zulu types in
two poses and a Samurai horse-archer; any ideas?
2C is Minifigs ME1 Man-Orc with sword from Mythical Earth range circa mid-1970s - damn I'm old.
ReplyDeletesee http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Mythical_Earth
I'd guess that the RE and REC/PEC are Garrison from the codes. Anything with a small s after it is probably Minifigs S Range while PB is the later Phil Barker ancient range. AGr5 looks like a Greek archer and AB13s as a Byzantine (although none are listed with this code).
ReplyDeleteHave a look at the this site under the various manufacturers' listings.
http://www.vintagewargamingfigures.info/rblack/index.html
Brilliant Mr. Tar! That is him, I was so sure he was an ancient!
ReplyDeleteAnd thank you too Mr. Annonymous . . much to label-up when I get home!
I must also confess to laziness with these posts, as it's easier to hope people recognise this stuff than to search all these lovely sites, the Lost mini's wiki these days seems to have a lifetime's worth of browsing alone!
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Hello. All three #1's are Garrison-Greenwood and Ball figures.
ReplyDeleteThey are Persians, a peltast, a camel rider and a clibinarius (iirc)
I'm pretty sure 5c through 5G are also Garrison figures. Phrygian axeman, Eastern Roman Archer (Syrian),A Germanic peltast with the option of an axe or a spear, and what look like two roman cavalrymen.
Interesting assortment of figures!
Thanks Doug
ReplyDeleteThey are literally 'odds and sods', I have reasonable samples of white metal by all the main companies (in storage unfortunately), where they were easy to ID, or still had the packaging, these are the runts!
Quite a few are 'maybe Minifigs' or 'maybe Garrison' going on bases, but not marked to match those I sorted when I sorted them!
Strange that 2D and 4 haven't rung any bells as I remember a pile of them, but it was a rummage-tray and they are a bit chunky so they may not have been a success at the time!
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Tim eMailed:
ReplyDeleteMinifigs Imperial Rome (Second style)
3A IR24 Barbarian Symmachiarius Javelinman
3B Garrison Gallic standard bearer
Minifigs Macedonian Punic Wars
2A PB18 Persian Officer (Early style)
2F PB38 Roman Velite (Second style)
7C PB43 Carthaginian Infantry Officer(Second style)
Minifigs Lord of the Rings/Middle Earth
2C MF1 Uruk-Hai
Minifigs S range
2B AGR8s Spartan Hoplite
http://minifigssrange.blogspot.ca/2009/05/agr-8s-spartan-hoplite-spearman.html
7A looks like AR5 as well
2E AR5 Roman Advancing (Early Version)
http://minifigssrange.blogspot.ca/2009/05/ar-5s-roman-legionary-advancing.html
https://easterngarrison.blogspot.ca/p/minifigs-s-range-ancients-list.html
7C AB13 Byzantine Archer
8A All are Hinton Hunt 20mm Zulus
http://minifigssrange.blogspot.ca/2009/05/agr-5s-greek-light-archer-firing-bow.html
8B AGR5 Greek Archer
7B AGR5 Greek Archer
Original and later remodelled versions of this figure. The original figure is wearing a fur skin cap, as shown by Funcken.
8C SAMC2 Mounted Samurai Warrior Archer.
http://minifigssrange.blogspot.ca/2009/01/samc-2-mounted-samurai-warrior-archer.html
3C is Minifigs, no Idea what.
Hope this helps a bit,
Tim
Yes - it all helps enormously Tim - thanks again!
Uruk-Hai...Doh!
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And...
ReplyDeleteUnknown Ancients
1A I think is Garrison 20mm (Not 25mm, which is why he's different) The pose is pure Garrison.
And Yes: PE3 Persian Infantry Half Armoured
https://easterngarrison.blogspot.ca/p/blog-page_4.html
1B and 1C are Garrison 25mm. Aside from the sculpting which is not Dick Higgs, Minifigs had the saddles attached to the riders, not the horse. They are either Persians OR from the Hyborean range. (Our local shop had both, so I was never sure which my cavalry was coming from. But most if not all of the Hyborean cavalry was one-piece.)
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More thanks from me Tim
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Hi Hugh - enjoying these mystery tour posts! - 6c is definitely s-range Minifigs, and 6d very distinctive 20mm Garrison horse pose - except that Scruby did some exactly the same.
ReplyDeleteThank you Mr. Foy! That's actually it for a while, but as I say I have found a larger box of 'Unknown Wellingtonians'! Although applying some of the rules that have come to light in these posts should allow me to filter out some of the Minifigs and Hinton Hunt etc...But there will still be a few posts in there - soon!
ReplyDeleteCheers
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Picture 4 is Asgard Vikings
ReplyDeletehttp://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Vikings_%28Asgard%29
V1 Two-Handed Axeman
V2 Archer
V3 Heavy Infantryman with Spear
V4 Heavy Infantryman with Sowrd
V5 Spearman
V6 Berserker
V7 Light Javelinman
V8 Standard Bearer
V9 Heavy Infantryman with Fur Cloak and Hood
V10 Heavy Infantryman with Fur Waistcoat
V11 Viking Slinger
Mr Gisby Sir! You are a star...funnily enough I was looking in the 'A' folder a couple of nights ago, wondering if any of them were the 'A', and Asgard is one of them...I don't know what's in that folder, probably an old TMP link and not much more...I'll look later!
ReplyDeleteCheers Tim - Above and beyond.
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_ which means the other A-thing'ed figure in one of the other posts will be Asgard as well?