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Thursday, January 19, 2017

U is for Unknown Metal Cowboys, Colonials and Combatants from the Colonies!



When I said on the Unknown WWI / II post the other day "...a similar number of 'unknowns' as any other era; the democracy of war-gamers - and there was me thinking there were more Wellingtonian fans than any other..." I was mistaking the AWI and ACW tub (contents next) for the Wellingtonians, I have now found the Wellingtonians, they were in a larger box altogether and will provide a week's-worth of 'Unknown' posts by themselves!

However I will do some other stuff in-between, but to clear the other era's (whose combined samples - as I had at first cynically suspected - probably only match that over-dressed bunch of peacocks) this in the assorted C19th stuff.

Combative chaps from the colonies starts on the left with a damaged (and possibly factory-painted?) Mad Madi's man from the Middle East, he could make a recruit for one of the British East African regiments but you would have to give him boots!

Next to him is another HH; as I'm loading these posts in a batch, someone may have ID's them in a previous post by the time these go up [Hinton Hunt!], but I'll collate all the 'answers' at the end! A Zulu this time, clearly designed to be holding a separate [missing] stabbing-spear, knobkerrie or fly-wisk/pointy-stick thing?

The rest are arab types; all unmarked, going 20mm+ 15mm and 6mm, the 6mils being a pair on camels and a pair on rather large horses!

A large - but blobby - arab cavalryman in around 28mm, followed by chap in a pill-box hat (Indian Mutiny? Or earlier?) around 25mm, then a 20mm who may be Grenadier Miniatures? It's also hard to tell who/what he is, he may be WWII French resistance or Russian revolution, he seem to have a beret and a blanket roll - Spanish Civil War?

The last two are an unknown, oversized 15mm Zulu and a standard 23/25mm Chinese chap, probably Boxer Rebellion but could be earlier 'Ancient'?

P is for Pith! The first Scottish figure is very nice and from the neat MADE IN ENGLAND calligraphied on the base seems to be factory painted and has been soldered to a tin-base, then a chunky wagon-rider or gun crewman. An 'on the small-side' 20mm officer is in the middle with a much larger prone figure to his right.

This forth figure has a lot in common with the known figures in my collection from Stadden and Suren, so I'm guessing he belongs with them, but being baseless lacks any markings, not that Stadden's bases are always legible, but they are generally easy/easier to ID! The final figure is barely 20mm at all but would look good with Airfix 1st type FFL!

More Pith! Anyone recognise this complete gun-crew and Gatling-gun set-up? It's not the one I vandalised many years ago for my ACW 'army', that had a taller magazine and winding handle missing from this one, I think my childhood one was a - much-marked with the HM monogram - Hinchliffe one; while this has no markings on any of its components

My unknown Cowboys in whitemetal, all three of them - 40mm giant (unmarked), 25mm with the same double-triangle and round base as those Vikings the other day (U is for Unknown Ancient Metal Figures [4]) and a 20mm prospector, probably from a tourist trinket; also unmarked; he's been glued to a steel base with a two-part epoxy such as Araldite.

8 comments:

  1. Hello Hugh; 3E is a Jacklex figure; looks like the chap firing the Gattling Gun; http://www.spencersmithminiatures.co.uk/C1-1-.jpg ;1C is one of the old RSM Colonials (Ex Pax Britannica) Pathan Adv with Rifle...

    Hope that helps. Cheers and greetings from Berlin

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  2. Cheers Duncan in Berlin; it does, it does, and I'd rather be in Berlin than here right now, you lucky man!

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    Tim eMailed me with a full breakdown on most of them!

    1B = ZWZ1 Hinton Hunt Iduna http://findthatfigure.blogspot.ca/2008/08/zwz-1-zulu-induna-in-headdress-and.html

    ZWZ 1 Zulu Induna in headdress and regalia, pointing
    findthatfigure.blogspot.ca


    2B = Minifigs IC4 Gurkha Advancing

    3B =? Minifigs BCC14 Limber Rider ? (Not 100% But he looks Minifigs)

    3C is Minifigs S Range - BC 3s British Infantry Officer
    British Colonial
    Infantry
    BC 1s British Infantryman Advancing
    BC 2s British Infantryman Firing
    BC 3s British Infantry Officer [highlighted in eMail]
    BC 4s Highlander Advancing
    BC 5s Highland Officer
    BC 6s
    BC 7s
    BC 8s
    BC 9s
    BC 10s
    BC 11s
    BC 12s
    BC 13s
    BC 14s
    BC 15s


    2E Minifigs S Range - Sam 7 Peasant with spear and sword

    Samurai
    Infantry
    Sam 1 Samurai warrior with sword
    Sam 2 Samurai warrior with spear
    Sam 3 Peasant with sword
    Sam 4 Armoured peasant with sword
    Sam 5 Peasant with bow
    Sam 6 Peasant with bamboo spear
    Sam 7 Peasant with spear and sword [highlighted in eMail]
    Sam 8 Samurai warrior archer
    Cavalry
    SamC 1 Mounted Samurai warrior with spear
    SamC 2 Mounted Samurai warrior archer
    SamC 3 Mounted Samurai warrior with sword

    Cheers again Tim - I'll have to find that 'find the figure' blog, it's escaped me!

    H

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  3. And then he came back with more...

    2D - 15mm isn't my normal stomping ground, but I was sure I knew the style from Warrior Miniatures: Sure enough, A Gallia 15mm Zulu

    MC79 Zulu, Full Dress, throwing Assegaii

    http://www.warrioronline.demon.co.uk/gallia/galliacolonial.htm
    Gallia Miniatures - 15mm Colonials
    www.warrioronline.demon.co.uk
    All figures are 21p each, recommended animals are shown (H1, H2 etc) but are not included. One Piece Castings (OPC) priced individually.

    ZULU CAMPAIGNS
    MC68 Zulu, unmarried, thrusting with Assegaii
    MC69 Zulu, unmarried, throwing Assegaii
    MC70 Zulu, unmarried, with Knob-kerrie
    MC71 Zulu, unmarried, firing Rifle
    MC72 Zulu, unmarried, advancing with Rifle
    MC73 Zulu, IsiCoco, thrusting with Assegaii
    MC74 Zulu, IsiCoco, throwing Assegaii
    MC75 Zulu, IsiCoco, with Knob-kerrie
    MC76 Zulu, IsiCoco, firing Rifle
    MC77 Zulu, IsiCoco, advancing with rifle
    MC78 Zulu, Full Dress, thrusting with Assegaii
    MC79 Zulu, Full Dress, throwing Assegaii
    MC80 Zulu, Full Dress, firing Rifle
    MC81 Zulu, Full Dress, with Knob-kerrie
    MC82 Zulu, Full Dress, advancing with Rifle
    MC83 Zulu Induna (Leader)
    MC84 British Infantryman firing
    MC85 British Infantryman advancing
    MC86 British Infantryman prone
    MC87 British Infantry Officer
    MC88 British Infantry Bugler
    MC89 British Infantry Standard Bearer
    MC90 Highlander firing
    MC91 Highlander advancing
    MC92 Highlander prone
    MC93 Highlander Officer
    MC94 Highlander Piper
    MC95 Highlander Standard Bearer
    MC96 Dragoon. H7. H8
    MC97 Lancer. H7. H8
    MC98 Mounted Officer. H7. H8
    MC99 Mounted Infantryman. H7. H8
    MC100 Mounted Infantryman on foot
    MC101 Artillery Gatling Gunner
    MC102 Artilleryman carrying Gatling Ammo
    MC103 Artilleryman kneeling
    MC104 Artilleryman standing
    MC105 Artilleryman with shell
    MC106 Artillery Officer
    MC107 Limber Rider
    MC108 Naval Brigade Gatling Gunner
    MC109 Naval Brigade Gatling Ammo Carrier
    MC110 Frontier Light Horse Trooper. H15. H16
    MC111 Frontier Light Horse Officer. H15. H16
    MC112 Natal Native Contingent with Rifle
    MC113 Natal Native Contingent with Assegaii
    MC114 Naval Brigade Rating with Rifle
    MC115 Naval Brigade Rating with Sabre
    MC116 Naval Brigade Officer


    Many thanks Tim

    H

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  4. And - later the same day...

    2B isn't a Gurkha, that figure has gaiters or puttees. I'm going with Indian Mutiny IM23 Sepoy Advancing, service dress.

    BUT....

    1D = Minifigs 51CC Dervish Cavalryman with sword.
    http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/images/catalogue/51CC.jpg

    The HH Zulu didn't have a separate weapon, he was gesturing, He has a weapon behind his shield.

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    Many, many thanks Tim, you're going beyond the call!

    H

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  5. Finally Tim 'nails' the gun -

    Picture 4 - Gatling gun - Black Tree Designs ZW1020

    https://eoeorbis.com/collections/zulu-war/products/zw1020-gatling-gun-crew?variant=1314908268

    Thanks again Tim!

    H

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  6. Oddly enough, for the Hinton Hunt and Gallia Zulus, see http://smallscaleworld.blogspot.ca/2009/02/z-is-also-for-zulus.html

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  7. I did know....errr....and then I didn't! The stuff gets lost in the pile! Also I think I had Military Modelling to hand to match the style - if not the figure - then!

    H

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  8. Tradition had an almost identical figure (in pose at least, the regalia was different) in their 20mm Zulus - I actually went back and checked to make sure it was HH and not Tradition.

    Apropos of nothing, at least one of the Tradition 20mm had (instead of lacing) rows of tiny overlapping circles stamped on the shield.

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