Green again; I toyed with blue but it has fascist connotations through
both the Tories and Spode's Short Trousers!
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Let It Go Hugh You Are Not Going to Win
This One Err . . . I've been 'winning' since you
started this exercise in self-ridicule on the 17th December last!
Posted on July 14, 2017 by admin Well done!
But why do you keep calling yourself 'admin' with a lower-case 'a', it's as if
you want to big-yourself up but can't spell-big?
Let It Go Hugh You Are Not Going to Win
This One. Well then who is? By the end of this
'article' you will have A) admitted to shadowing me (something you've denied
several times) and B) admitted to intending to follow me some more, something
else you've denied more than once, that makes you a loser, sorry; 'liar' . . .
liar? Loser? Oh - Both! If you've lost it lying and I'm not going to win it - we're
in a pretty pickle nes't pas?
It seems Hugh Walter can not accept that
the Marx six inch cowboys were designed by Bob Lemmon. On the contrary, I accept he is responsible for Marx's figures and thought I had made
that clear, I'm just saying they were copied from Simonetti's in the style of
Simonetti, years after Simonetti had established himself as a figure sculptor,
with that sculpting-style. He clings to the false statement that the
Marx six inch cowboy figures were designed by Elio Simonetti. No, you're putting words into my mouth which just aren't
in the origianl posts, in order to then 'score' a 'victory'? I've said - and am saying it here again - Marx's Cowboys & Indians are copies.
This despite the fact that I have shown data and information that showed
it was Lemon (no you haven't shown 'data', you've just
stated it as fact), who did the figures. Not able to accept this he has come up with a new statement.
What I actually
said
Let It Go Hugh You Are Not Going to Win
This One The New Statement Hee-hee, you've gotta
laugh!
Hugh’s new statement is “Marx was
known in Hong Kong as the ‘supreme knock-off artist’ ” My reply is “So”
The Marx figures made in the United States are original designs (no they're not, they are copies of Fonplast-Fontanini, in the style of Simonetti's work). The
Marx six inch cowboys were first made in America so they are not copies. No they aren't, they are 'after', the poses differ (are
you getting all 'mix and confuse'
with the Cane/DS/Mehanotechnica
ones?) they are later, and even if they came out three minutes apart, they
follow the sculpting style of the older, established, Italian sculptor; as all
of Lemmon's work does, it's about influence, I never said what you want people
to think I did and the posts are all there for them to check-back on.
Let It Go Hugh You Are Not Going to Win
This One Marx Hong Kong A whole Marx Hong Kong? Does it include a little
Port Tain Sang and three Blue Box
factories to visit?
As to line on Marx being a “supreme
knock-off artist” what is your source? I thought
your reply was "so"? Now
you want to get all irate after all - make your mind up! Marx from its
Hong Kong Period did figures several ways. They had new figures made such
as the Marx Redcoats from the Warrior of the World series. Marx reused old
molds from the United States such as the Marx 60mm cavalry once again for the
Marx Warriors of the World serries. They did copies of other company’s figures
some of the knights in the Marx miniature set are copied from the Britains
knights. Finally they used figures from other Chinese companies that had
copied other companies. Thanks, but this has all
been said on the Marx websites, it's
been on TSHQ for 15, 20 (?) years and most of it has been in PW if not;
certainly PFPC and its successor, it's pretty basic stuff, so; your point?
[He shows a Marx polystyrene
AWI British soldier from the WOTW range]
That line has no bearing on the
subject. The fact remains it is Bill Lemmon not Simonetti who did the
figures. You have shown no solid proof. Neither
have you! It all happened a long time ago, I have presented logical argument -
you've just presented argument!
The line has every
bearing on the subject, namely: that Marx was a terrible old pirate, and the
statement was made in the chapter 'The 'Toy King' Discovered Hong Kong' in the
book Toy
Town by Sarah Monks, in the section dealing with the piracy of the Bild Lilly doll by 'LT' Lam Leung-tim of Forward Products later Forward
Winsome, (Gina for Sam Seltzer's Allison Corp.) who worked closely with
err . . . Louis Marx, Mattel (Barbie) and Marx's own Miss Seventeen
(made by err . . . Lam Leung-tim) a scale-up of Bild Lilly err . . . like the 6" Indians are a scale up of Fonplast's!
Let It Go Hugh You Are Not Going to Win
This One Stadsstuff The thought of wining 'One
Stadsstuff' fills me with horror, so the fact that I will not, brings with it
some considerable relief! Too funny, it's all too funny.
Next Hugh attacks my using a .com for
my blog (no I don't!). You do not need to
have .com to have Word Press. Many people do. My .com is left over from my days
of selling. I pointed out that having a dot-com
allows you to falsify old comments by editing them after the event, that's all.
"...Hugh attacks..." Ooowwwwh - you
poor little kitten; don't let the horrid man drown you in a bucket of facts!
More so; he
gets upset that he cannot change things while I
can (No I don't - I was suggesting that comments on
my blog can be trusted, but they can't on yours!). Boo Hoo (throwing my vocabulary back at me - again! Lack of
originality!) then get a better program. I use Word Press, one of the most popular blogging programs in the world (? I use the most popular; do I get extra points
towards a free figure?). It allows me to edit both posts and
comments. On posts I do corrections on grammar (Do
you!? Hahahahah, really? I'd hate to see what they looked like before they were
corrected!), spelling (Hahahahaha! Comedy
gold!) or add new information (pity it
doesn't have a punctuation tool). Comments are only touch [?] on grammar or if they fall into one of my restrictions, or if me
or Erwin want to correct our idiocy. My only restrictions are no
degoratory [spell] coments [spell] based on race, creed, religion, gender or sexual preference. No curse words; I see and hear enough of
that. Do not post your email as I do not want spammers to get
it. ???? Baffle them with illiterate,
miss-spelt, un-punctuated, illogical-grammar . . . and bullshit?! You change
your and Erwin's errors, that what you do! And invent the odd commenter!
These preceding two
whole paragraphs are based on his having misread or miss-understood what I was
saying, because he's a fuckwit. He really is tilting at windmills here! And
Blogger - as I use it - is a platform not a program!
I was making a point
about veracity, that's all, I'm not upset - it's almost a
pleasure to prove his dishonesty with nothing more complicated than 'before
& after' screen-capchas!
Stad's . . . err
. . . 'correcting grammer'!
Let It Go Hugh You Are Not Going to Win
This One Airfix I have all the 'One Airfix' I need!
As to his Airfix comment (what Airfix
comment? Stadinger now goes off on a flight of pure fantasy!) at the
moment the only thing I can say he is grumbling about his comment that
did not get posted. I put this figure up on site to see if anyone could
identify it. Peter Evans told us it was Airfix. Hugh did likewise
except he added one word (Fuckwit, I said fuckwit!
Because he's clearly fuckwitted, or was it fucktard? He's a fucktard too).
Akismet got the comment and treated it as spam. (Akismet is the spam
blocker for my site.) I happened to look at the spam to see any good
message might be routed wrong. ( I will not go through 301 spam pieces as I
recently got in one sitting.) Hugh’s was there and I would have posted the
comment except the word he use was very derogatory. The clean version is
stupid people. (? No, me neither, what the fuck does
that actually mean (remember it's been corrected for grammar!) he's losing the
plot! Or talking to the KGB - "the bats fly south for thanksgiving",
"The kettle is in the tea-pot", "The Stadinger is a
fuckwit") So it got sent to the trash as it was unprofessional. Ah yes, 'cos Stad's is a 'professional' with his
articulate erudition and command of the Internet! Too funny!
I would not have said anything but Hugh
brought it up. No - I didn't.
The only mention of Airfix recently was in connection with
the wanker 'Grand Turd Ordure' at Forum
Gratuit 1:32 stealing 54mm HK swoppet pictures from my Airfix Blog pages and had nothing to do
with the big 'I Am' at Stad's Stuff, at all, whatsoever, in any way, shape or
form, but his self-absorbed arrogance and blind-stupidity know no bounds.
Let It Go Hugh You Are Not Going to Win
This One [plus one] Final Thought
Finally [one]
Hugh is upset that I am shadowing him. It is true I said I was not going to
bother with him. That was a mistake which I have corrected. You have
been watched by me and will be watched by me. When you make stupid statements
like one above on the Marx Cowboys. I will disagree. I have been doing it (what? Talking shit?) for 40 years and will keep
on doing. Yeah? Try learning English while you're
at it, it will give your wittering more gravitas!
One [other one -
two too funny!] final item please when you reply to this use qoutes or
paraphrase. Do not copy the whole thing as that is a copyright infringement
which have done twice already. English please? It's
not a copyright infringement if it credits the origin, this is a line-by-line
rebuttle a legally recognised form of dealing with general fuckwittery! A link
to the original will be provided, that is all that is required -
acknowledgement of the original author; one: Paul Stadinger, fuckwit of this
parish.
Well enough on this. I can’t waiting (priceless!) to see how many pages Hugh spews on
this.
Comparing green to grey;
a little more than you! But I'll add some below just for your amusement Paul.
Link to original -
cut and paste into your browser - it's so much more scintillating in the
original (I can lie too)! http://www.stadsstuff.com/?p=9745
Joking aside; where's
the humour? I'm taking this crap less and less seriously yet I'm still wiping
the floor with the pair of them, reading Stadinger is like listening to Andy
Murray read the shipping-forecast. I appreciate that's a UK-centric point lost
on most of you, but there you go, something for the domestic readers!
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So, to a few points raised by the above
- · Having denied shadowing me several times since December last, he now seems to be happily admitting so. In the light of my previously stating I'll do a separate post on the subject; the order of utterance would therefore appear to be; Lie, lie, lie, cowardly admittance!
- · Having stated he will have nothing to do with me and/or not bother with me, he has done so twice in recent weeks and again here, and now seems happily intent on continuing to do so. The order of utterance would therefore appear to be; Lie, lie, lie, backtracking-U-turn!
- · As with his little fuck-monkey apprentice - you don't seem to be able to trust anything Stadinger says, or does.
This stuff is amusing, and it entertains me to continue. I did say in
January that they had started it and they'd need to finish it, something they
show no signs of doing, so we go on.
He keeps labouring the point of my excessive verbiage, while publishing
half-intelligible stuff that is too long - only for being such a hard-read! People
in glass-houses shouldn't throw stones and trying to rebut illiterate-garbage requires
some explanation.
He doesn't defend any of his previous bullshit, he
doesn't explain the comments he made - which he claimed he hadn't, he seems to
have given-up trying to explain which of the three figure types Basa may or may not have carried or made
and/or how or when? We're still waiting for January's 'Part Three', I'm
definitely waiting for him to provide proof of where I called myself "...a master expert of plastic small “and all
else of a course toys.”..." and I'd love him to find
Port Tain Sang on a map for us - but he won't; because it's all bullshit and
lies!
Telling me not to copy his post - again! I'll do what I fucking like to
defend myself from his asinine, rancid, semi-literate, bollocky-drivel; the fuckwit!
Especially when it's perfectly legal - it's too fucking stupid! And he does
this whining about copyright while he still carries that piece of slander 'and all else of a course bullshit'!
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No, what he's done is switch away to another realm
altogether, one which frankly bores me; Simonetti was active from the 1940's,
joining Fontanini in 1945 and by the 1950's had established a style which is
quite distinct. Lemmon seems to have flourished in the 1960's and '70's, the
6" Cowboys & Indians were all the rage at Birthday parties around 1970/72
as take-homes for the guests - if it was a nice day, there would be a hunt for
them in the garden like Easter-eggs and if you found more than one you had to
give the other to your brother - fussa-russa!
Now, Stadinger is right - I have no 'empirical'
evidence, but I can put 2 and 2 together and stop myself making a Sell-five! Nor
did Stadinger provide any, he stated Bill Lemon was the chap at Marx ('accepted knowledge' within the
collection community) and I've not disagreed with him, just pointed out that
that doesn’t mean they were first, or that Simonetti wasn't involved - if only
by being copied. AND; all this was dealt with mid-June in two posts on his blog
and two quick rebuttals on mine.
Stadinger is coming from a blinkered, puritanical
'toy soldier' or figure-only view, with a pro national-maker bias (he won't
have anything said against Marx - or
about Marx!), but it's about toys -
in general, and Marx were terrible
plagiarists, of tin-plate from Japan and plastics from Hong Kong . . . Swoppet guards, Monogram GI's, Merit
accessories, indeed; some of the first Marx
figures (as far as toy soldier collectors go) were wooden 'knock-down' flat
figures 'after' McLoughin Bros - they
were copyists from the off.
He [Louis] was also a womanising, self-publicist,
who failed to see the future coming and it bit him on the arse! The 17" Bild Lilly clone being a flop, and one
of the things that began the end of Marx
- the first American volume-producer to move on Hong Kong, and one-time maker
of 10% of all toys sold in the US in a given year . . . but everything dies.
And please understand that that's not a dig at Marx, or Americans or American toy
makers; that WAS the Toy Industry THEN. The Germans all copied Elastolin, the Spanish all copied each
other, the Italians and Greeks followed Marx
to Hong Kong and bough other peoples copies of mostly British stuff, the
British meanwhile were all copying Britains
'Khaki Infantry' and Wild West like it was going out of fashion and the French
and Argentineans copied everyone! A simplistic thumbnail sketch, granted; but essentially
true! Airfix were plagiarists in the
beginning . . . Bergan/Beton from the
'States, Australian Pierwood figures,
margarine-flats from Europe, the Aurora
Spitfire . . .
Reading how LT took Louis Marx to the London
registry office to prove he [Marx]
didn't have the Bild Lilly patent he
was claiming [to Lam] that he did have, only for the pair of them to then
discover that Mattel hadn't
registered Barbie either, and what
that meant - for both of them, makes for fascinating reading, sadly it's clearly
not reading that Stadinger has bothered to trouble himself with!
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Where he got the Airfix
bollocks from I just don't know and he provides no clue, but it is interesting
for two reasons; firstly, if it's the FG1:32 comment, he didn't read it
properly and just assumed it was about him? Because he's an arrogant,
pig-headed, big-head; it must be about him!
Secondly, now we all know he's glued to my blog like a limpet, he can't
pretend he missed this link a few weeks earlier, or similar posts in the past. Those
same figures have also been in at least two PW's and two or three
versions of the Airfix special - most
of which he has, or has had in his possesion!
They've also been plagiarised by FG1:32 where Stadinger is active. So
he was only pretending not to know what it was. Why? Why would he pretend not
to know something he's known for years?
More pretence - can't you trust anything as 'straight' on Stad's Stuff? He does it all
the time; did the same thing with an 'unknown' [Starlux] stretcher bearer back in the Spring, then a few weeks
later told everyone how he'd learnt about Starlux
years earlier! It's all false; why?
Actually - I think I know why and it's really too funny, but that's for
a future-post, now the war's back on full-throttle!
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The language Stadinger uses; '...channel it into other pursuits', '...adversarial site',
'Let it go...', '...not going to win' all point to where his
mind is at - and it's a dark place, full of his own self importance and a delusional
view of where he is in the hobby, what he thinks he represents, or indeed what
the hobby is to him.
He sees other collectors not as fellows, but as
adversaries, rivals, people to be beaten down or lectured to, people to 'win'
against or have sent packing - a dark, dirty mind, full of shit!
And what was all that guff about Blogger or WordPress?
Some sort of childish playground 'point-scoring' shit? In his dark head only! Grow-up,
Stadinger. Funny; he claims to have done WordPress courses (plural), yet keeps
writing WordPress as 'Word Press' - wrong!
If I were to give-up on the rebuttals (and the
attacks), if I were to go off and do "...other pursuits" and if you're an English Language toy figure
blogger (only a few worth worrying about) . . . he'd be coming after you next.
It would take a year or so, he'd start to publish what you'd just published,
but with 'new' contrary facts, he'd match your output, covering things he
didn't previously cover, if you were covering them, taking a break if you did, he'd
accidentally 'find' stuff which was found by you first . . .
. . . and then he'd find a reason to fall out with you,
start a fight with you and the PSTSM would pile-in behind . . . ask Tom Terry
of PFPC, ask 'Don', ask anyone who's fallen-out with Stadinger, I'm told
there's quite a list! Or just keep watching these posts!
The real 'winners' here are the rest of you -
whether you're 700 or a thousand is irrelevant and the rest of the world, all
7+billion of them think we're all a bit odd!
With things like the recent Speedwell armoured cars post, Stadinger momentarily raises his
quality of output, while; with the steady ramping-up of day-to-day output (mostly
contributions) as far as more posts go (he's probably doubled output over the
last 18 months); he (or mostly his supporters) has [/have] given you more to
read, look at or download - just don't trust anything Erwin says.
Although - increasingly - don't trust anything
Stad's says either, his contributors are mostly straight guys, misguided, but
straight, Stadinger however; is always after an angle, he's a little bit 'woo',
a little bit 'wee', he'll nick your suitcase if you let him, he's bent.
The recent wholesale plagiarising of Italian
published works - for instance - is a worrying trend on Stad's Stuff, as are
the number of Internet images (Blue Box,
Cane, Dulcop) passed-off as theirs, but coming on the back of the
misrepresented Vectis shot back in
December; one feels the two idiots are feeding off each-other's excesses and
losing their grip on what's right and proper. Actually - I don't think they ever
cared.
Therefore, the [relatively] small number of these
antagonistic posts here (and there) should be regarded as a mildly
entertaining, mildly amusing, yet mildly annoying 'price you have to pay' for
getting more out of the old dog that is Paul Stadinger - for free!
And as to Stadinger's lattest spittle-flecked post?
It's a question of fundamentalism; Paul has gone over to Marx'ist-Lemmon'ism!
Onwards and upwards! Evilentity Man out . . .
Having had information and published drawings ripped off (sometimes by commercial ventures) in the past, I think one has to accept that there are Donald Trump type people out there (for want to a better term). Think your kitten image still says it best...
ReplyDeleteOh - sorry Andy, kitten had a day-off! It looks like becoming the summer comedy show, which will go down in the annuls of the hobby as the thing people talked about for minutes and err . . . a few more minutes!
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