Among both sources were some of the comic flat Romans
in hard plastic, which I've put to one side to compare with the soft plastic
ones at a later date when I get the soft ones out of storage, a nice metal flat
of a motorcyclist, probably from a board-game then . . .
. . . there were these five in soft
polyethylene plastic. I may have a few more of the cowboy's set somewhere and
he is actually semi-flat or demi-rond,
in fact the chicken family is, too, really, and while the see-saw or Jack &
Jill may be copied from a European 'margarine' premium, they are - as a group -
nothing to write home about (which is why I've packed-out the post with
additional material!), and will be sorted into the master collection when that
comes out of storage.
As they are soft plasic, they will be
gum-ball or Christmas cracker stuff, I'd imagine, and I don't know what's
happening with the squirrel, standing up on 'man legs'! The ship on the other
hand, has previous 'form', as we can see . . .
. . . in this shot, with a second blue one
above the 'new' red one (I have lots in store) in the centre. To the top left
is the Maison du Café (house of
coffee) premium from which they are ultimately copied, while the two larger
pairs of red and green ones are from the 1990's incarnations of Lucky Bag, and seem to be from the MduC tool, with the pin-release mark in
the same place.
To the far right [we're all going!
Boom-boom!] are two other Maison's,
while the one bottom left is also a demi-rond,
and while 'unknown' has similarities (in the base) with some stuff I have
marked-up to Eei Fein, but I won't be
putting it in the tag-list.
The copies match the smaller copies of the Pecos Bill figures from a Marx sculpt we've looked at before here,
and like those figures, there are several; generations of polyethylene ship
copy, each a bit smaller and crappier than the last.
But the above would have been a crap post,
so I grabbed these two from the big waiting-zone folder in Picasa, where
they've been sitting since 2015! Without Googling them I think there's a BRDM (top?)
and a Fug or Skot (Skot's may be Czechoslovak and 8-wheeled - I'm winging it here,
don't tell TJF!)? The whole set has four BRDM/Fug-Skot [whatever] variants with a
PT76 and various out-of-scale 54/60mm infantry.
They are Polish-made and some sources state
PZG, however, they tended to fully-round
sculpts and - usually - are painted, even their flat scenic pieces, so these
may be another maker; likely Centrum. It may have a field gun too and I have more in storage so we'll have another look one day!.
These in turn reminded me I had another
'flat' item in the 'News, Views...' folder waiting for a follow-up . . . or
something . . .
. . . which is on the left here. It's the
tray I mentioned last time we looked at the Russian/Bulgarian cavalry flats and
which I kept meaning to show, for those who aren't familiar with it, but kept
forgetting to! Doh!
I then went back to the dongles to find the
image I knew I had somewhere of the tray in use (on the right) with a mixed
group of Russian cavalry chasing the fat dictator's troops out of the motherland!
Conversely, these DO look a bit like PZG (from
the bases) but are definitely Russian as they have the price in Cyrillic on the
edge.
It [the tray] is a superb piece of
product-design with larger studs to prevent the cavalry sliding into each other's
ranks and smaller studs to stop them escaping the tray horizontally, holes and
ridges give strength to an otherwise flimsy moulding and discs balanced - on
the ridges - above a row of holes hold the figures to the tray vertically, all
in a pretty rough, single-shot product.
The tray also contains the full pricing
scheme moulded into the underside:
u11k x8
uEHA kOMMnEkTIA IP
u11k - 11 Kopeks (price of
single figure)
x8 - [= 88] (price of a whole tray of 8 figures)
uEHA kOMMnEkTIA - Complete set [price-]
IP - 1 Ruble
x8 - [= 88] (price of a whole tray of 8 figures)
uEHA kOMMnEkTIA - Complete set [price-]
IP - 1 Ruble
(In other
words; the tray = 12 kopeks [8 x 11 = 88 + 12 = 100 = 1 ruble]) It's no wonder Russian spies can knock people-off in British shopping precincts, willy-nilly; they were learning complicated maths - as infants!
I don't know how many poses there are in
the full set (left), as you can see I've managed to track-down 10 different
sculpts, and assuming you might want two full trays to fight each-other; there
may be as many as 16. However - there's no evidence any of these are French units, so
your guess is as good as mine?
Other sets were available for the trays, on
the right we see six (of a possible eight?) revolutionary cavalry from 1917 or
thereabouts; depiction that is, not plastic manufacture; the figures date from
the 1970's?
May 2021; The figures used to illustrate the above are now recognized as the output of Malysh, one of the Moscow toy collective factories!
The question is
ReplyDeleteAre there tabletop wargaming rules for those?
Interesting stuff Hugh. I need to find mine russian/soviet/eastern block flats to compare. Cheers Chris
ReplyDeleteI got the whole set of the Warsaw Pact flat troops and armour from Czechoslovakia in 1985, I listed all the pieces in an article for PW back then. Eventually I sold them through the PTS auctions, I heard they went to a Polish collector in USA.
ReplyDeleteRenalcus - I don't think so? But I bet some enterprising young Russians got together and made rules . . . then they probably broke the rules and blamed the other guy!
ReplyDeleteChris - If you send photo's; Small Scale world will happily share them!
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