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Monday, October 25, 2021

S is for Still 'Q is for Question Time' but C is for Closer to an Answer!

Sometimes these things come fast, sometimes they drip-drip-drip toward the truth, I'm not sure which this will prove to be, but we can add a bit to the three figures originally tacked-on to another post here, in the hope it may trigger someone's memories?

2; Cowboy Wagon; French Wild West; Greek Wild West; Marx Figures; Marx Wild West; Mounted Cowboys; Mounted Figures; Mounted Indians; Plastic Toys; Question Mark Figures; Question Time; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Unknown Cowboys and Indians; Unknown Toy Figures; Unknown Wild West; Wagon; Wild West;
I actually found this in Greece, but with an English title 'Plastic Toys' that's no guarantee of anything, I also sourced an Alamo set in generic packaging from Greece, which was actually BMC! Four cowboys on foot protect a wagon from two mounted Native American Indians. Stapled (rather than heat-sealed) blister hints at age, but it's not empirical.

2; Cowboy Wagon; French Wild West; Greek Wild West; Marx Figures; Marx Wild West; Mounted Cowboys; Mounted Figures; Mounted Indians; Plastic Toys; Question Mark Figures; Question Time; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Unknown Cowboys and Indians; Unknown Toy Figures; Unknown Wild West; Wagon; Wild West;
Colours aren't as interesting as the metallic's we looked at last time, but new poses include a couple more Marx 54mm clones and a mounted Indian, he has both a familiar look and the look of French 1950's hard plastic, which could be another clue?

2; Cowboy Wagon; French Wild West; Greek Wild West; Marx Figures; Marx Wild West; Mounted Cowboys; Mounted Figures; Mounted Indians; Plastic Toys; Question Mark Figures; Question Time; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Unknown Cowboys and Indians; Unknown Toy Figures; Unknown Wild West; Wagon; Wild West;
The wagon is a common design, Crescent, Blue Box, various US makers and Giant et al in the smaller scales, this is the version with a box-seat forward of the tilt and differs from others with an additional towing hitch at the rear. And . . . yet another iteration of 'THAT' horse, which - while Bergan/Beton to us - is actually the old Britains hollow-cast standard!

2; Cowboy Wagon; French Wild West; Greek Wild West; Marx Figures; Marx Wild West; Mounted Cowboys; Mounted Figures; Mounted Indians; Plastic Toys; Question Mark Figures; Question Time; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Unknown Cowboys and Indians; Unknown Toy Figures; Unknown Wild West; Wagon; Wild West;
Foot figures are marked as last time, the mounted figures have a more evenly scalloped edge to the base side/rim, and what looks to be a removed brand-mark, all are numbered, seemingly in sequence with the previously seen ones (by which I mean the duplicates are marked the same!), starting somewhere above ten or fifteen, suggesting earlier numbers may be for another line - WWII or US Cavalry, knights . . . or something else?

2; Cowboy Wagon; French Wild West; Greek Wild West; Marx Figures; Marx Wild West; Mounted Cowboys; Mounted Figures; Mounted Indians; Plastic Toys; Question Mark Figures; Question Time; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Unknown Cowboys and Indians; Unknown Toy Figures; Unknown Wild West; Wagon; Wild West;
How it looks now; the reason I only shot the one mounted Indian from the set as 'new' is that factory-painted versions had since turned-up - in the pile! So we have Marx clones and [possibly] French clones, in a least three issues (one painted, two colour-way runs) which may be French and/or have had a Greek branding/importer.

The card also has a spurious '2' hinting at other card-arts, or suggesting the artwork may have been nicked from something else? And the numbers now found hint at a set of at least 15, in fives, plus the wagon (or any other accessories?), thus:

[11-15 - Foot Indians? (yet to be found by this author)]

0 - 15 - Unknown
16-20 - Foot cowboys
21-25 - Mounted cowboys
26-30 - Mounted Indians
31-35/40 - Foot Indians?
35/40 - 55+ Foot Cowboys ?
 
Unmarked - Covered-wagon and team with driver.

But that is all pure conjecture, the Marx foot figures were a larger set and more/all poses may have been copied, taking the numbering back to 1, 5 or 10 . . . with no foot Indians being produced?

Anyone feel they can add anything, or ID the mounted figure's donors?

Now known to have been Kain premiums at some point, and one of the Indians on foot was here, elsewhere, and a higher number, as are two more, all under both Kain and Make; Greek tags now so you can find them, and more have come in. product issued by Kain is still unknown and cowboys on foot may be numbered from 10 or 11?

2 comments:

  1. χαιρετισμός and nice find.

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  2. Greeting to you Jan (I had to google it!), yes I was pleased to find it if only for the extra clues to hopefully solving the mystery one day!

    H

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