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Thursday, September 28, 2017

N is for Not Known Nappies on Nags

This has been in the queue since a week or so after the last lot (Feb/March sometime?), and for some reason or another has been pushed-back, ignored or forgotten, not least that I haven't taken the rest of the shots for what were going to be accompanying parts, they WILL be a separate series now, which means this can shoe-horn in here as a standalone!

All 'unknown' with any clues/ideas I may have about them, and all mounted Wellingtonian cavalry types, or slightly earlier/later . . . some may be Crimea types?

These are 'nice', they have an indefinable quality, albeit in a parade or 'Toy Soldier' style; they could be Stadden/Tradition or something like that? Willie/Suren maybe, Phoenix or Rose? Anyway they need a better ID than that, as does everything in today's post!

They are bigger than most, 35/40mm and the white  horse has 'had work' in that the reins have been filed/sanded off. There are no visible marks, but the riders (with integral saddlery) have been soldered-on so they may have marks - now hidden.

B1 - Artillery/Wagon draft-horses, are they nappy?

B2 - Another closer to 30mm, and there seems to be a mark on the horses belly but I'm buggered if I can read it; even with a pen-torch playing across it and a jeweller's eye-piece I can only get it to look like 'MINX'!

B3 - I have a feeling these are Prince/Prinz August, but confirmation would be nice, or an alternative! It's that worn, silver, spray-paint look and the shiny cuirassier, along with some short/miss-moulding to the corners of the bases?

I'm guessing these are Minifigs and the horses for some of the figures in the next few shots, but - again - confirmation and/or alternative ID are still needed for all six. Why four of them have the same number is a mystery, I assume they were each created from the original master, with a casting being taken after each stage, picking-up the code from the first version, or that they came as a set?

C2 is the only one marked under the base; the rest are marked to be visible after painting, and I'm presuming (having already felt, assumed and guessed) that HCH is for Heavy Cavalry Horse and LCH . . . for 'Light....'!

I think this and the following three shots are showing some of the riders for the six horses above, now this either means I'm bloody short of horses, or more horses were identifiable and have already been labelled-up, so are in storage [he hopes]!

While this would mean I think they are all Minifigs, it's clear some are by other makers and one is marked Hinchliffe. They are mostly smallish, 25mm, some marks (in black).

Cuirassier and Life guard types?

Prussian-looking or General/Staff Officer types. E1 is marked inside the saddle '13' in green chinagraph, E2 is likewise marked 12? I'm assuming it's Blucher - with the pipe? E3 (PF7) has the full Hinchliffe mark and all three are closer to 30mm.

E4 is a different maker (or sculptor, with thin, weedy arms) while E5 is an RHA outrider, they are both 25mm to the Prussian's thirty.

Busbies and Bear-skins! F3 has a very heavy, thick, saddle-moulding.

Frenchie/shako types - G1 and G2 are the same figure, G1's lance has been cut free, but he has been marked with an engraving-tool. G7/8 are closer to 23mm and G9 (British infantry officer?) is barely 20mm.

These have all been semi-assembled with solder and given additional reins and tracings, the horse's bases carry a code, sometimes two, but if the riders are marked it will be on the hidden saddle-insides, also they'll not necessarily be the same makers, vis-à-vis horse and rider? I used to think they were Hinchliffe, but am open to suggestions!

H5 raises the possibility that the codes may be home-applied as it has two, one tying-in with horses further up the page and the other over what may be a Hinchliffe mark? Both H5 and H12 are annotated in the order the numbers read across the base.

H8 has had his head cut-off . . .

"Tiger Sah?"

"A Tiger? In the Iberian Peninsular?!"

6 comments:

  1. H are Hinchliffe: wobbly elbows and all.

    H1 Fnc24 Grenadier A Cheval Of The Gd Off.
    H2 Bnc17 Light Dragoon: Trpter
    H3 Fnc23 Grenadier A Cheval Of The Gd
    H4 Bnc16 Light Dragoon: Officer
    H5 Fnc25 Grenadier A Cheval Of The Gd Trumpeter.
    H6 Dbnc2 Caribineer Officer ??
    H7 Pf7 Field Marshall Prince Blucher
    H8 Anc2 Cuirassier Officer
    H9 Fnc26 Chasseur Of The Gd
    H10 Pf5 Earl Of Uxbridge
    H11 Anc3 Cuirassier Trumpeter
    H12 Fnc28 Chasseur A Cheval Of The gd
    H13 Pf14 Marshall Berthier

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  2. The B3's are Prince August, to be sure.

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  3. B1 W1 Draft Horse for Double Shaft Wagons Minifigs
    C2 S range light horse Minifigs
    All C's are Minifigs, from different horse eras. (They changed styles several times.)
    E1 PNC13 Landwehr Trooper Hinchliffe
    E2 Rf12 General Kutzov Hinchliffe
    E3 Pf7 Field Marshall Prince Blucher. Hinchliffe
    G6 Hinchliffe
    G No idea
    F3 appears to be a Hinchliffe in a sea of Minifigs, S and later
    F and G otherwise Minifigs, s range and later

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  4. Sir! What a star you are! I shall label them up tonight with much gratitude for you labours!

    Seriously; cheers Gisby, I'll run the rest through the 'new issues' pages of my old MM's when I get them out of storage, but that's a chunk of them done. I will start sorting out the Foot and Mouth as there's gotta'be about five posts-worth?

    H

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  5. B3....

    Prince August

    http://shop.princeaugust.ie/battle-of-waterloo-wargaming-moulds/

    B3 Left - PA512: 25mm Napoleonic Wars Horse Moulds #2
    B3 Right - PA513: 25mm Napoleonic Wars Horse Moulds #3
    3/1 - PA508: 25mm French Trooper, Cuirassiers Moulds
    3/2 - PA515: 25mm British Trooper, Royal Scots Greys Moulds

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    G6 Hinchliffe
    G7 No idea
    F3 appears to be a Hinchliffe in a sea of Minifigs, S and later
    F and G otherwise Minifigs, s range and later

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  6. The Minifigs with saddlery are S range: Here's a link to an ID guide for later Minifigs Napoleonic horses. Compare the saddlery to get an idea of what the figure is supposed to be.

    http://minifigssrange.blogspot.ca/2010/07/napoleonic-cavalry-figure.html

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