All 'unknown' with any clues/ideas I may
have about them, and all mounted Wellingtonian cavalry types, or slightly
earlier/later . . . some may be Crimea types?
These are 'nice', they have an indefinable
quality, albeit in a parade or 'Toy Soldier' style; they could be Stadden/Tradition or something like
that? Willie/Suren maybe, Phoenix or Rose? Anyway they need a better ID than that, as does everything in
today's post!
They are bigger than most, 35/40mm and the
white horse has 'had work' in that the
reins have been filed/sanded off. There are no visible marks, but the riders
(with integral saddlery) have been soldered-on so they may have marks - now
hidden.
B1 - Artillery/Wagon draft-horses, are they
nappy?
B2 - Another closer to 30mm, and there
seems to be a mark on the horses belly but I'm buggered if I can read it; even
with a pen-torch playing across it and a jeweller's eye-piece I can only get it
to look like 'MINX'!
B3 - I have a feeling these are Prince/Prinz August, but confirmation
would be nice, or an alternative! It's that worn, silver, spray-paint look and
the shiny cuirassier, along with some short/miss-moulding to the corners of the
bases?
I'm guessing these are Minifigs and the horses for some of the figures in the next few
shots, but - again - confirmation and/or alternative ID are still needed for
all six. Why four of them have the same number is a mystery, I assume they were
each created from the original master, with a casting being taken after each
stage, picking-up the code from the first version, or that they came as a set?
C2 is the only one marked under the base; the
rest are marked to be visible after painting, and I'm presuming (having already
felt, assumed and guessed) that HCH is for Heavy Cavalry Horse and LCH . . .
for 'Light....'!
I think this and the following three shots
are showing some of the riders for the six horses above, now this either means I'm bloody
short of horses, or more horses were identifiable and have already been labelled-up,
so are in storage [he hopes]!
While this would mean I think they are all Minifigs, it's clear some are by other
makers and one is marked Hinchliffe.
They are mostly smallish, 25mm, some marks (in black).
Cuirassier and Life guard types?
Prussian-looking or General/Staff Officer
types. E1 is marked inside the saddle '13' in green chinagraph, E2 is likewise
marked 12? I'm assuming it's Blucher - with the pipe? E3 (PF7)
has the full Hinchliffe mark and all
three are closer to 30mm.
E4 is a different maker (or sculptor, with
thin, weedy arms) while E5 is an RHA outrider, they are both 25mm to the
Prussian's thirty.
Busbies and Bear-skins! F3 has a very heavy,
thick, saddle-moulding.
Frenchie/shako types - G1 and G2 are the
same figure, G1's lance has been cut free, but he has been marked with an
engraving-tool. G7/8 are closer to 23mm and G9 (British infantry officer?) is
barely 20mm.
These have all been semi-assembled with
solder and given additional reins and tracings, the horse's bases carry a code,
sometimes two, but if the riders are marked it will be on the hidden
saddle-insides, also they'll not necessarily be the same makers, vis-à-vis
horse and rider? I used to think they were Hinchliffe,
but am open to suggestions!
H5 raises the possibility that the codes
may be home-applied as it has two, one tying-in with horses further up the page
and the other over what may be a Hinchliffe
mark? Both H5 and H12 are annotated in the order the numbers read across the
base.
H8 has had his head cut-off . . .
"Tiger Sah?"
"A
Tiger? In the Iberian Peninsular?!"
H are Hinchliffe: wobbly elbows and all.
ReplyDeleteH1 Fnc24 Grenadier A Cheval Of The Gd Off.
H2 Bnc17 Light Dragoon: Trpter
H3 Fnc23 Grenadier A Cheval Of The Gd
H4 Bnc16 Light Dragoon: Officer
H5 Fnc25 Grenadier A Cheval Of The Gd Trumpeter.
H6 Dbnc2 Caribineer Officer ??
H7 Pf7 Field Marshall Prince Blucher
H8 Anc2 Cuirassier Officer
H9 Fnc26 Chasseur Of The Gd
H10 Pf5 Earl Of Uxbridge
H11 Anc3 Cuirassier Trumpeter
H12 Fnc28 Chasseur A Cheval Of The gd
H13 Pf14 Marshall Berthier
The B3's are Prince August, to be sure.
ReplyDeleteB1 W1 Draft Horse for Double Shaft Wagons Minifigs
ReplyDeleteC2 S range light horse Minifigs
All C's are Minifigs, from different horse eras. (They changed styles several times.)
E1 PNC13 Landwehr Trooper Hinchliffe
E2 Rf12 General Kutzov Hinchliffe
E3 Pf7 Field Marshall Prince Blucher. Hinchliffe
G6 Hinchliffe
G No idea
F3 appears to be a Hinchliffe in a sea of Minifigs, S and later
F and G otherwise Minifigs, s range and later
Sir! What a star you are! I shall label them up tonight with much gratitude for you labours!
ReplyDeleteSeriously; cheers Gisby, I'll run the rest through the 'new issues' pages of my old MM's when I get them out of storage, but that's a chunk of them done. I will start sorting out the Foot and Mouth as there's gotta'be about five posts-worth?
H
B3....
ReplyDeletePrince August
http://shop.princeaugust.ie/battle-of-waterloo-wargaming-moulds/
B3 Left - PA512: 25mm Napoleonic Wars Horse Moulds #2
B3 Right - PA513: 25mm Napoleonic Wars Horse Moulds #3
3/1 - PA508: 25mm French Trooper, Cuirassiers Moulds
3/2 - PA515: 25mm British Trooper, Royal Scots Greys Moulds
Comment above was supposed to be
G6 Hinchliffe
G7 No idea
F3 appears to be a Hinchliffe in a sea of Minifigs, S and later
F and G otherwise Minifigs, s range and later
The Minifigs with saddlery are S range: Here's a link to an ID guide for later Minifigs Napoleonic horses. Compare the saddlery to get an idea of what the figure is supposed to be.
ReplyDeletehttp://minifigssrange.blogspot.ca/2010/07/napoleonic-cavalry-figure.html