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I’m a 60-year-old Aspergic gardening CAD-Monkey. Sardonic, cynical and with the political leanings of a social reformer, I’m also a toy and model figure collector, particularly interested in the history of plastics and plastic toys. Other interests are history, current affairs, modern art, and architecture, gardening and natural history. I love plain chocolate, fireworks and trees, but I don’t hug them, I do hug kittens. I hate ignorance, when it can be avoided, so I hate the 'educational' establishment and pity the millions they’ve failed with teaching-to-test and rote 'learning' and I hate the short-sighted stupidity of the entire ruling/industrial elite, with their planet destroying fascism and added “buy-one-get-one-free”. Likewise, I also have no time for fools and little time for the false crap we're all supposed to pretend we haven't noticed, or the games we're supposed to play. I will 'bite the hand that feeds', to remind it why it feeds.
Showing posts with label Gibbs. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Gibbs. Show all posts

Wednesday, October 10, 2018

U is for Unknown Wild West Flats - 3 - Known 'Hong Kong' of Origin

On to those unknown Wild West flats about which one fact IS known; that they are from Hong Kong! And we have seen most of them here already I suspect, but I'm literally 'box ticking' a whole box with these four posts!

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Flat, 35mm'ish copies of the Crescent/Kellogg's 54mm solid Indians! Obviously copied by hand rather than pantograph, and copied poorly, with bits missing (the tail of the archer's headdress!) or badly moulded.

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I have a single yellow one, so there must be more, and likewise the slosh of gloss-blue on the other addition to the line-up could be home paint, but I suspect a minimally-painted version was put out there at some point.

Those of you of an observant persuasion will have noticed that the two eagle-bird men are very different sculpts, one having a feathery hood, the other 'fish-scales'. I have a dozen or so of the red ones and there is quite a bit of variance, but the 'Hong Kong' mark is the same on all of them, so it's hand-copied straight to multiple cavities I think!

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We have definitely seen these on the Blog but I had a couple of loose ones in storage and couldn't remember whether or not I mentioned last time that they are scale-downs of the old Gibb's 'Toob' flats from the USA, I don't have any copies of the Gibb's US Cavalry poses, but it has to be wondered if they too were pirated, at the same time? Still missing the wagon!

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These are semi-flat and probably accompany some of the smaller mounted figures you find from Hong Kong, I only have the one pose and the two figures - about 45mm. Along with the first lot they are a soft polyethylene ('polythene').

Monday, December 15, 2008

G is for Gibbs

This is one of the most sought-after sets in small scale collecting, despite being A) Too big; B) Flats and C) Probably not that rare? Indeed the scale varies, like most flats with mounted figures being smaller than foot and the Tee-pee's even smaller.

The reason I don't believe it's that rare, is because it was obviously sold as a touristy memento or keepsake and would have been stocked by several museums and probably the battle site facility. Therefore it would most likely have been purchased by parents/grandparents, and thus may have been kept if a different part of the house. I'm willing to bet that the 'Family games drawer' of houses all over the world have these in them. Why do I think this? Three out of the four I know of, were/are Mint with booklet and play-mat and three out of the four I know of, have turned up in the UK. They are too different to end up in the toy soldier box with the Airfix, Starlux or Marx and have a semi-educational aspect which would have lead all those house-proud 50's housewives placing them with the Monopoly and/or Chess set in a different part of the home/playroom.

This is the tin they come in, it has a tie-pull opening mechanism, which I will place on my Imageshack account as I can only load 5 images at a time on this blog due to the level of detail I'm shooting at.

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I'll also put up a sample page from the booklet.

Yellow poses are the foot Indians and Tee-pees, the foot figures average 40mm but some of the guys being shot would be closer to 50mm if they straitened-up!!! The Tee-pees are much smaller at about 1:120.

The Red 'Sprue' was all the mounted Indians, and some riderless horses running about. Again size varies slightly between the mounted horses, however two of the riderless beasts are considerably smaller, and one is quite large in comparison.

Blue is for the ill-fated mothers' sons of Mr Headstrong's command. Both foot and mounted, as with the Indians, a riderless horse is provided. Note the number of casualties...

The Play-mat with Custard's route to oblivion...Oh! instead of the deserved oblivion he received fame which lasts to this day...One-Nil to the Native Population? No; Lost One-to-Nine hundred and Ninety-nine, on home ground...Sorry.

The set is numbered; SET NO. C-2, leading one to the less than dramatic conclusion that there is probably a C-1 somewhere. As the 'C' may stand for Custer, this might mean the other set was a non-figure related product, supplied to the same institutions that were buying this set. But if the 'C' stands for something else like Cowboys or Combat, we could all be looking for a second far rarer set that WAS retailed through toy outlets and has been played to death in the toy-soldier box???

The set is described as 80 true-scale plastic figures, there are in fact 82 pieces and without the Tee-pees there are only 78 figures, but that's the pre-consumer-rights era for you!!

[For those afflicted by Political Correctness, all mentions of Indian above should - of course - read; Native American People of the Pre-Columbus Era.]