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I’m a 60-year-old Aspergic gardening CAD-Monkey. Sardonic, cynical and with the political leanings of a social reformer, I’m also a toy and model figure collector, particularly interested in the history of plastics and plastic toys. Other interests are history, current affairs, modern art, and architecture, gardening and natural history. I love plain chocolate, fireworks and trees, but I don’t hug them, I do hug kittens. I hate ignorance, when it can be avoided, so I hate the 'educational' establishment and pity the millions they’ve failed with teaching-to-test and rote 'learning' and I hate the short-sighted stupidity of the entire ruling/industrial elite, with their planet destroying fascism and added “buy-one-get-one-free”. Likewise, I also have no time for fools and little time for the false crap we're all supposed to pretend we haven't noticed, or the games we're supposed to play. I will 'bite the hand that feeds', to remind it why it feeds.
Showing posts with label LP. Show all posts
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Sunday, December 3, 2023

F is for Follow-up - Space Man

Just a quickie, as we've had several looks at developments in Lik Be's space-toy lines this year already, but I wanted to compare Jon Attwood's donation to the Blog, with the real McCoy as it were, and here are those shots!

Direct comparison with a late Culpitt's one (1990's), the shininess of the larger/original version belies the fact that I have 'brushed-aluminium' versions of LB's finest too! The base of the smaller one is similar to those polyethylene pastel or primary-coloured ones which turn-up quite often, but the fact that the new addition is also hard polystyrene plastic means you can't rule-out a closer relationship?
 
With various others that happen to be here rather than in storage!
Thanks Jon, a real treat.

Wednesday, July 31, 2019

LP is for LB - Part 3 - NAS'Astronauts!

This was going to be a five-parter, but there's not a lot to add by looking at the small versions of this morning's two sets, so as a box-ticking 'closure' we'll look briefly at the later (?) addition to the range,  (all two of them!) and call it a day for now.

Almost exclusively cake-decorations, although they did appear in the larger 1970's boxed sets, I used to use a big'ole question-mark with them when ascribing them to the company formally known as LP; Lik Be, now LB!

Indeed it was the work of the guys at Moonbase in finding the larger sets which confirmed my suspicions vis-à-vis their being 'LP', when they turned-up in sets with silver-chrome or gunmetal spacemen and chromium robots - along with lots of little vehicles, some of which were previously known as Tri-Ang Spacex over here and MPC Golden Astronauts over the pond.

You get a flag, nicely square (no/low gravity . . . and a hidden wire!), a chap with a camera "Watch the shadows dude; or some fuckwitt's'll convince themselves we never got here" and a guy with a sample- . . . spade? Shovel? Scoop . . . a sample-scoop! "It's Orange!"

Often issued with a Luna Landing Module (we've seen them here before with it), and bagged either as generics, or various jobber/phantom brands. Over here it was Culpitt.

They seem to have been sculpted by the same person who was responsible for the Robots/Aliens, but a little later - I suspect (?) - with the same base-underside styling and a similar mark, but without the LB cipher.

Which brings me to another question-mark, which remains a question-mark despite my being 90% sure (hedging a tad!), due to a lack of empirical evidence, but I think the AWI red-coat Airfix 'Washinton's Army' piracy, cake decorations (who DO have a blue-jacketed issue in the US - see 'AWI' passim), are also by the same guy, and - being in the same plastic - must be LB too, probably along with at least one set of the 'Spirit of '76' trio, the smallest set in hard polystyrene.

For the missing small scale posts, you can't do better than go here for the spacemen . . .


While the vehicles - which I'll have  a box-ticking on at some point (I don't have a perticualrly full sample) - are all to be found here.

As these are 'plastic smalls' they should prove to be of no interest to those so recently of changed minds as to whether they are IDL or LP, but I'm now calling them LB!

LP is for LB - Part 2 - Full Size Robots

Alongside the - previously 'LP' - astronauts were six robot types, although some people think of them (or some of them) as aliens; some of the packaging back in the day wasn't fussed and it's fair to say several of them can be painted-up as life forms.

But for simplicity's sake, I'm thinking of them as robots here, and, because in the small scales they were usually in some form of metallic finish; I've always thought of them as robots, having collected the small ones first!

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While the Spacemen have grown considerably over the years as a sample, I don't think I've picked-up a single extra robot (in the large scales) since I last blogged them a decade or so ago, both here and at Moonbase, so this post is more of a re-hash!

Only four of six in the earlier chromium-plated line, and one of them is a silver-sprayed late version, run after conversion to a key-ring, or even a key-ring, sans ring! One of the missing poses is below (next image) but the other has eluded me, although that's probably because Bill over at Moonbase has amassed a stunning collection of the 'Wotan' bot!

And there are generation of these which match the well-painted spacemen, but they seem to be quite uncommon, which may be in part down to the thinner arms and and/or legs and sticky-out bits leading to damage and a trip to landfill?

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These turn-up occasionally with different contents, and their level of survivability suggests late 1970's-early 1980's? The pink bot is one of the missing poses in my small sample, but both it and the green one are key-ring pierced and soft ethylene to match the tank and spaceman. The space-tank is also the poorest type with no pull-back motor and very-proud (of the body) carpet-wheels leaving it looking a bit daft.

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While all sizes of both spacemen and robots were issued as Cake Decorations over here and in various window-boxed and carded sets, it seems the large-scale robots were converted to key-rings quite soon which may explain their being harder to find, compared to the astronauts in their un-holed form?

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Where the collection has gained is in the field of 'rubber jiggler'/sucker-bots, where I have scored a couple of lots in recent years, but these aren't LB (LP), but various generations of copy.

I've yet to ID the marking on the green ones (top left) although it's missing from the similarly painted sample (which also has a different HK mark) to the bottom right. The simpler painted ones in yellowy-orange have similar HK marks to the larger-lot, but look like those issued or marketed by Mei Kee (marks MK or T [-in-a-circle]) of the New Territories.

The detail and marking differences point to more than one maker, but batches - over time - could have equal variance? or several smaller plants could have been working on larger orders (with Imperial maybe or someone like that; one of the capsule-toy importers?) with sets of duplicate moulds.

Thankfully I have lots of Wotan-bots in these jiggler samples!

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I think I shot this after I'd found a few more, or realised that the contents of two bags were the same issue, anyway they are the bottom-left lot in the previous shot, but with additional poses, some colour variations and a couple of damaged samples.

I've inset a screen-cap of a Mei Kee compared with the middle-left one. Are they the same? I have a feeling the MK ones have a slight rim or ring-edge to the sucker?

LP is for LB - Part 1 - Full Size Astronauts

As I think I've said before, I have a problem with these, as they are clearly 'astronauts' (late Program Mercury suits, with the strapping carried over to Program Gemini, not the earlier, more common, Mercury suit with a diagonal zipper/seam?), but, they are carrying firearms, which in my mind makes them 'spacemen' . . . it's a thin demarcation-line but you have to have them or you could never put anything away!

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I first covered these here, briefly and small-scale only, nearly 11 years ago (December 2009), and - after hitting it big with larger-scale examples (an eBay lot and the legendary Barry Blood's sell-off at 2009 or '10's PW magazine show) followed-up that post with a guest slot on Moonbase Central. Since then we have returned to them a few times as the odd lot's come in, and the logo was revisited . . . yeeaahhhhsss; I had to have a good look at the logo a little while ago!

Known as IDL, ID or ID Ltd. for the longest time, in around 2001/2 (or a bit later?), work - by several people - in several issues of One Inch Warrior led to the general acceptance of LP as the maker/mark except in Pennsylvania and Florida where IDL continued to hold sway until a few months ago! I'm now calling them LB, as we know they were produced by Lik Be of Chaiwan, Hong Kong.

These are the original set of eight different sculpts, they are surprisingly inactive and even a little two-dimensional, but they were some of the first unique figures to come out of the colony with little of other 'western' figures about them and are well sculpted, well proportioned (for a bunch of six-footers) and nicely finished.

They are manufactured in factory-painted hard polystyrene and were glued into various window-box sets, which - similar to the contemporary Blue Box sets - came in one, two and three-tier versions, and deeper boxes with accessories. Consequently they always have the remains of the glue and/or the paper from the backing card left on them.

Bases are usually a blackish-green, but some paler ones turn-up and we will look at the smaller ones later.

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Quite soon they were replaced with polyethylene soft plastic figures, and other colours were introduced (which make them more 'spaceman' less 'astronaut' - in my books!), and we see here soft plastic figures mirroring the gun-metal of the originals, a flat grey, green, white and red examples.

Some were still glued into the tiered-sets, while others where clamped by card cut-outs, or held by rubber bands, in the end they came in styrene-blister packaging, but by then . . .

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The all over multi-coloured painting had been reduced - briefly - to a three/four colour on the front of the figures only, which lead quite soon after (it seems) to the final unpainted versions and here we see all three versions, in their probable order of issue, time wise, each in white (the creamy one in the middle is sun-damaged I think; not a colour variation).

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Unpainted samples I have found so far; white, black, blue, red and green, although (going on the robots - next post) there may well be pink and pale green examples out there, and maybe the earlier flat grey or even gunmetal?

All the figures so far (above four images) have the same LB (LP) mark on the base underside along with a blocked MADE IN over HONG KONG, they don't have the same numbering of the robots (next post) and probably date from the 1970's.

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There was a late re-issuing of the figures in the 1990's (the originals must - from their suits - date from the early 1960's) of unmarked (left hand) figures; I bought a set of these between 1997 and around 2002 for the editor of Plastic Warrior in the Ballon Shop in North Camp from a large counter display tub (of the sort used at the same time by Imperial the US 'jobber'). The marked one is probably the 1980's iteration and is more 'worn' than a true colour variant.

What is notable about them is that they were a return to a hard plastic, but it's not a styrene (the marked one may be, actually!), so probably a polypropylene or Nylon/Rayon material (?) and their final indignity was to be cleared from the factory with no chromium-plating in what are probably neutral-granule colours (two on the right)

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Alongside the Lik Be originals, their metaphorical (or sometimes 'actual') cousins in the colony were churning out copies, and there are two generations of based clones, these are the better versions, although measurably worse than the donors (as you can see; measurable by eye!), with the earlier ones aping the full paint of the proper chaps, and then unpainted figures being sent out.

They have a simple HONGKONG base mark, in a similar but less well defined hollowed-base cavity. I suspect the set shown on the right were once supposed to glow in the dark, but it's an unstable additive and is yellowing and fading-out of a semi-transparent neutral plastic.

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The other set are sub-copies in around 50mm, and can be found in gunmetal samples, or multicoloured batches. They only copied four of the poses though, and while I suspect they are HK product, they could be from somewhere else, being unmarked?

The French produced a lot of this kind of piracy as 'bazaar' (rack-toys) as did the South Americans, while to a lesser extent locally-produced knock-offs or unmarked HK stuff was available in Greece, Italy and Spain? Speaking of Greece; Solpa carried unmarked, cruder-still copies of the LB figures, but they had more poses cloned.

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The other clones are the novelty sucker-toys (top, far right), shown with what I believe are early/late pairings of - from the left; LB (LP); same-size clones; 50mm clones. I only have the one sucker-figure, but there are several generations of them and we'll look at them with the robots - next post. The lower shot is one of each type/variation of the larger-scale figures, found, so far!

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The feebleBay purchase which got the 60-mil collection off to a fine start; my desk-top in the spring of 2009, further colours and some of the piracies came in Barry's little grey bags, that May!

Moonbase has so much more on these; the best thing to do is spend a few hours browsing their LP tag, they also have more sucker variants, baseless copies and the Solpa figures.

X-Plane, Mercury and Gemini suits;