Can anyone ID this composition figure?
Possibly German made, but no base, so no base mark! And clearly an Ottoman infantryman from the period of the First World War, or from the blue, earlier . . . Russo-Turkish war of 1877? I'd love to put a maker's name to him. He's quite big as well; about 80mm?About Me
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Showing posts with label Turks. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Turks. Show all posts
Thursday, December 4, 2025
Q is for Question Time - Fusilier in Fez
Labels:
80mm,
Colonial,
Composition,
Ottoman,
Q,
Question Time,
Turks,
Unknown,
WWI
Sunday, November 3, 2019
M is for Many Ways to Make a Medieval
We're looking at the figures I lost (the
images of) and which in the searching-for, managed to lose a near finished
article due to my inherent fuckwittery . . . and the fact that Lenovo
gives you half a split-second to cancel a shutdown, and even if you manage it,
then overrides your [two] instructions and shuts-down anyway!
Cherilea's small scale (50-mil-odd) knights
in armour, they come in at least two sizes (small and smaller!) and various
versions, plastic colours and paint-ways. The figure top-left is a metal
original, and the reduction in size between him and the larger plastics isn't
down to a pantograph, but just that plastic shrinks more than metal as it cools
- from the same mould.
The smaller ones however, may well be the
result of copying by pantograph? Although a quick study of the plumes will
reveal there are at least two cavities (or tools) in each size, possibly more.
My arranging of them has no real
significance, but from this angle you can see further variations in base-shape
and mould release-pin marks, while painted and unpainted on various colours of
plastic are to be seen. The jade green pair are a more modern reissue, but
still - now - fifteen to twenty years old?
The Crusaders; The two on either end of the
upper row are the metal ones this time and the one on the right doesn't seem to
have been carried-over to the plastic line. Again, two clear sizes (visibly
three for the standing pose actually) and a variety of finishes including gold
mail, but no coloured plastics - bar the re-issue. I think the fifth and sixth
from the left on the top row have suffered at the hands of their owners'
artistic callings!
The cross on the metal one's shield is much
broader so it must have been re-cut when they prepared the mould for
plastic-production, or they went straight to new tools . . . or I haven't found
a plastic one with a broad cross yet?
The 'enemy', especially if you are a Kurd
cut-loose by the Orange Loon! These are all brittle and I have a sample as
large as the other two sets, but most are damaged. A third pose existed in
metal (carrying standard), but I've not seen it in plastic, and it's usually
broken when you find it in metal!
And, clearly a different sculptor, these
and the other two metal poses are far more animated and anatomically different
from the more relaxed or statuary knights and crusaders. The metal range was all
together bigger with the four Saracens, four crusaders and three knights that I
know of.
Labels:
50mm,
Cherilea,
Crusaders,
From Hollow Cast,
M,
Make; British,
Medieval,
Plymr - Ethylene,
Turks
Wednesday, March 28, 2018
Y is for " ♫ ♪ You Gotta' Right t'Not-Fight, But Par-ar-ar-ar-taaayyh! ♪ ♬ " ! *
So this is the stuff I live to collect for
- forget yer' Airfix, yer' Jean, Elastolin or Starlux, all
mass-produced, common-as-muck stuff, and how many colour variations of Marx cavalry? Who cares, they were
packed in quantity in huge play-sets and piled high in ten-thousand stores,
every Christmas for a decade! Britains
farm and zoo? There are over a 2000 lots on evilBay - today (Farm - 1,897 lots, Zoo - 780), there will be in
ten days time, there were ten day ago!
But these . . .
. .
. never seen them before, may never see them again! Best thing from Sandown,
best thing this year - so far, two cool for dance school! **
What'der-yer recon? Balkans? Removed from
some larger piece of tourist tat like a cuckoo clock? Cake decorations?
Presumably, back in the days before globalisation, there were things like
'local' cake decorations? Wedding-cake? They could be a wedding party?
They are free-standing, but with a tendency
to fall backwards and note that there is damage to a foot at either end, so they may
have been removed from something which might have been a simple base, a
complicated plinth or some household object? They could be the handle of the
lid of a cheap butter-dish, with the other figures from a matching cruet set or
sugar bowl or something!
We know a lot about UK, US and Euro toys, have
learnt a lot about Aussie and NZ makers form the ACOTS guys and are now getting
quite a bit on the Soviet bloc's commoner stuff, but there's a whole world out
there and we know little about most of it, we don't even know what happened to Tatra's moulds after they went to Africa,
probably in the 21st century!
These could be from the 'Stans, from the Balkans
proper, South to one of the former Yugoslav republics, North to Bulgaria, West
to Greece, are they Maltese or Cypriot (which half?!), the hats are quite
Cossack-looking, black rather than red and softer outlines than true fez's (so
I've ruled out Turkey arbitrarily!) which could take us up to the steppes of
the Urals?
Bagpipes! Now we're in Syria or the Levant!
Yeh - Scotii, you got them from the Picts who got them from the Legions, the
little baby Jesus [probably] invented them two-hundred years before the Picts stopped
painting each other blue like monkey's arses for long-enough to kill some Romans
and take their wheezing-cat bags, you just added some notes and a fancy tartan cover!
Joking apart, they have a lot in common
with the Female Italian from Codec / Commonwealth
/ Sanitarium and the male Turk from Sanitarium
in the various World Doll/World Dancer ranges, so maybe Turkey after all! The
apron and simplified skirt-stripes could place the women nicely in Skutari,
Albania?
Researching this costume stuff - as I've
discovered before - is not made easier by the fact that fifteen or twenty of
the modern states/countries the figures may be from were in three empires in
1900; Ottoman 'European Turkey', Austro-Hungary and Imperial Russia.
The bag-piper has a wire-nail trumpet, but
a plastic finger-whistle-mouthpiece-thing and is a single moulding with the nail
presumably set into a jig in the tool before each shot. The brown 'worms' on
him and the figure below were perished rubber-bands, used to hold them all
together at some point in the past - let's hear it for click-shut bags.
All the figures are a creamy-white or
neutral plastic, definitely polystyrene (as I mended some damage to the
line-up) and are all-over painted in at least 12 colours - all of which are on
the seven-figure line-up; flesh, pink, red, blue, pea-green, dark-green,
yellow, tan, brown, black, white and gold.
These two however only add to the mystery,
they initially looked as if their arms had been broken off, but close-ups show
that they are just formed flatter (and possibly - further glue-melted) and with
the deliberate hollow formed in the centre of their chest they seem to have
been removed from something large; a base-drum, a May-pole, a dancing partner,
a circus act . . . who knows?
Someone does - somewhere! They had to be informally
discussed, formally planned, designed, funded, ordered, master-sculptured,
pantographed, cleaned-up, test-shot, manufactured, packed, wholesale-marketed, shipped,
retail-advertised, sold, used, discarded, found, sold-again and moved to
Surrey, over maybe a 30/50 year period? Somewhere; someone knows all about
them!
You want to know more about Cherilea Wild West? Google them!
You want to know more about these? Tough!
---------------------------------------------
* With apologies to the Beastie Boys!
** Actually it's a toss-up between these
and the whale, as Balkan dancers can't have a fair fight with a whale, it'll
have to be a draw for now! Look out for best ever non-board game game . . .
with pigs . . . ever; coming soon!
And many thanks to Adrian Little who as
good as gave me the bag of bits which contained both these figures and the
whale!
Labels:
28mm,
30mm,
Balkans,
Cultural,
Decorations,
Ethnic Dress,
Household goods,
Plymr - Styrene,
Russian,
Seasonal - Celebration,
Turks,
Unknown,
Y
Thursday, January 4, 2018
12 is for Days of Christmas - Day Ten
Yesterday's archers from the other side,
the simple two-part knights who were nice but rather relaxed poses and the
wacky 'clip-together' figures. Behind them, not so clear are the smaller
Samurai, also simple mouldings.
Labels:
12 days of Christmas,
54mm,
Contribution,
K,
Kinder,
Make; Italy,
Medieval,
Mixed Eras,
Novelty,
Plymr - Mixed,
Res Plastics - RP,
Swoppets,
Turks,
Wild West
Thursday, June 8, 2017
F is for Fontanini - Part 4 - Fonplast
I'm calling these Fonplast rather than Fontanini
because Fontanini had their own range
of toy figures, the African natives, pirates and Cowboys & Indians sat next
to the smaller versions of the nativity figures in peoples toy boxes - with a
full range of Fontanini marks on them
- indeed; they tend to have a full set with cavity/stock number, 'spider' mark,
'Depose' and 'Italy', while these only have a paltry 'Italy'.
However, there are various clues as to the
fact that they came from Fonplast,
not least is that no one else in Italy was producing Elio Simonetti designed
figures, in dense, flesh-pink, PVC-vinyl, while Fonplast was producing all the PVC-vinyl, flesh-pink, dense,
figures designed by Elio Simonetti . . . for Fontanini - who owned Fonplast!
A set of Turkic warriors of the early
Ottoman Empire era, similar to but not the same as those carried by Cané, copied from Elastolin,
as Simonetti was working for Cané at the time, and Fontanini were letting them copy their
Vikings while they (Cané) were borrowing their
number-one sculptor, it's possible that the figures were designed by Simonetti
for Elastolin, they are very
different to other Elastolin stuff,
and follow Simonetti's styling; and that he gave permission for Cané to reproduce them, as 'rack toys' in another (Italian) market.
Whatever the truth, it seems Fontanini didn't have a set of Turks
otherwise? Now; when the grand children of Emanuele Fontanini set-up Fonplast in 1963, they would have needed
to practice on something and practising with the composition figures still
being made by Fontanini a few miles
up the valley would have been daft, impractical and technically impossible. I
think these figures, which are quite uncommon, indeed - were hardly known until
a number of undecorated castings appeared recently - are those 'practice'
pieces.
Described by some as ACW and others as
Garibaldini, the presence of a
lasso/lariat suggests these are meant to be US cavalry, to fight the set of
Indians below. I'd like to say Custer's 7th, but what looks like a 7 in the
image above is actually a star on the guidon.
It would appear that before (or as) they
were tooling-up to produce for Fontanini,
the Fonplast factory experimented
with a cash-earner; a small range of 'Toy Soldiers', which are the figures seen
here. I don't know how successful they were, but the fact that they seem so
hard to find (excepting the recent find) would suggest they didn't take of - or
even happen; commercially - see below.
There's a pose missing if they were all in
sixes? Also apart from the above three sets, I am aware of no others, but the
Turks would have needed an 'enemy'?
They don't have the more domed bases of Fontanini either, even the little 40mm
'Zulus' had the grass-etched dome of the rustics/nativity figures. These have a
very commercial looking 'toy' figure's flat base.
But the older-looking packaging of both the
African warriors and the pirates contain soft-plastic polyethylene figures,
with the painted, vinyl figures apparently coming later (from the same moulds).
If we assume the early experiments with other plastics (styrene and ethylene)
were carried out up the road by Fontanini,
that makes sense, with Fonplast not
handling them (the moulds) until they were up and running with the PVC
production, they were actually set-up to engage in.
The smaller-scale, factory-painted figures - Africans, the
pirates, Cowboys & Indians and rural/pastoral types - were still being sold
in the UK as cake-decorations from point-of-sale stock-boxes in the late 1980's,
while the 'antiqued' white or cream polyethylene ones were much earlier.
Another clue as to the origin and fate of
these figures is seen here; there is in this recent find - which I'm lead to
understand was part of a bigger find in Italy - of otherwise near-mint, finely
manufactured figures, clear signs of short-shot and heat problems with the moulding.
These are three of the Indians, but
problems are also evident on the cavalry and I wasn't checking as I chose the
figures from a larger sample, so I don't know how many of the figures in total
had problems, but it seems to be about a quarter of the total?
Having worked with an plastic-moulding
machine (lower pressure extrusions not high-pressure injection-moulds) my first
thought was that it was problems with foreign-bodies on the injector-head, the
blackening is usually a sign that something has got stuck to the inside of the nozzle,
over-cooked and is contaminating the new resin as it flows over the contaminant
. . .
. . . however, all the gate marks are at
the tops of the figures, so that explanation doesn't fit.
The holes (on the left above is a similar
blemish on one of the Turks) are simply where the plastic has got too cool to
finish filling the cavity, something which is easier to understand when you
realise the figure concerned was to be filled from the sword blade at the other
end - I'm not sure which is the gate mark and which is a jigget, or if they are
both gate-marks but I have highlighted them both anyway.
Of course trying to fill a large (65/75mm
figure) cavity from a small opening at the opposite end was going to be
problematical and while the blackening remains a mystery, the evidence is that
all did not go well in the manufacture of these figures and with most of the obvious problems on the bases - as far away from the injector head as it was possible to get - I think these were an over-ambitious, sprue-gate too small, first try?
Finally; while this recent find is in a
condition anyone who's seen them will tell you is 'near mint', there are signs
that prior to being released to the market in the last year or so, they have
been cleaned, and cleaned of a thick layer of dust, the sort of dust which has
aged to a layer of fine, greasy, soil on the figures.
These figures appear to have been in
storage, as an unpainted, slightly damaged, stock of 'seconds', for a long time
- probably since they were made. As - to my knowledge (and I don't know
everything!) - the 'firsts' haven't been seen either, I propose as a theory
that they never got a full commercial release at the time, although some may
have dripped into the world from out-painters, or via the children of Fontanini/Fonplast factory workers?
And that these 'seconds' are it; the
'firsts', the survivors of a trail run, failed experiments with a new
technology, pulled-line, whatever - there's a story there still to be
discovered. One thing I'm sure about, they are Fonplast and/or Fontanini,
not some spurious company called Italy!
How many companies in the UK marked their
figures 'England' or 'Made in England'; how many French companies marked
'France'; German companies 'Germany' or 'W. Germany' and err . . . Italian
companies 'Italy'.
The idea that 'he who makes things up as he goes
along' should think to invent another company; 'Italy-Dus'(it's his second this
year - DGN post coming soon!) on such
flimsy evidence as a base mark is extraordinary, that people are swallowing his
guff is more so, especially when he's taking what he's publishing from other
people's books - and happily admitting it as he regurgitates it, with errors,
yet without proper credit!
PS - Don't forget it's the London Toy Soldier show tomorrow.
PS - Don't forget it's the London Toy Soldier show tomorrow.
Saturday, July 19, 2014
S is for Sultan Saladin of Syria's Saracen Subjects
Repeat three times quickly whilst eating a water-biscuit!
Bit of a box-ticker today; not rare, not uncommon, but they have had a fair few decoration variations over the years so I thought we could look at some of them...the Deetail Turks/Saracens.
The one I always assumed was supposed to be Saladin / Salad-in / Sala'hadin....[Ṣalāḥ al-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb (Righteousness of the Faith, Joseph, Son of Job)] with his wicked curved scimitar lunging at the effete King Richard! "Drink my coffee with milk will you, you apostate Euro-swine!"
Chain-mace guy, some of the poses suit more than one of the weapons Britains provided, but this guy always looks best about to separate a crusaders head from his shoulders with a spiked boulder on a loo-chain!
Lance-throwing guy, his helmet has always suffered from the notorious 'easily detachable crescent-moon shaped crest syndrome'!
Other spear/lance guy...he's the guy with the other spear/lance.
Can have most weapons guy. I prefer the late painting on most of these figures, and his last version (a few years ago now 2007'ish) was particularly pleasing on the eye.
I'll take any weapon I'm given as well guy, but the axe works best! Illustrates the development of the base style well, in all the line-ups I've tried to go oldest to the left, newest to the right.
That's it; tags added, box ticked! Definite thanks to Mike Melnyk for some of the figures.![]()
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Bit of a box-ticker today; not rare, not uncommon, but they have had a fair few decoration variations over the years so I thought we could look at some of them...the Deetail Turks/Saracens.
The one I always assumed was supposed to be Saladin / Salad-in / Sala'hadin....[Ṣalāḥ al-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb (Righteousness of the Faith, Joseph, Son of Job)] with his wicked curved scimitar lunging at the effete King Richard! "Drink my coffee with milk will you, you apostate Euro-swine!"
Chain-mace guy, some of the poses suit more than one of the weapons Britains provided, but this guy always looks best about to separate a crusaders head from his shoulders with a spiked boulder on a loo-chain!
Lance-throwing guy, his helmet has always suffered from the notorious 'easily detachable crescent-moon shaped crest syndrome'!
Other spear/lance guy...he's the guy with the other spear/lance.
Can have most weapons guy. I prefer the late painting on most of these figures, and his last version (a few years ago now 2007'ish) was particularly pleasing on the eye.
I'll take any weapon I'm given as well guy, but the axe works best! Illustrates the development of the base style well, in all the line-ups I've tried to go oldest to the left, newest to the right.
That's it; tags added, box ticked! Definite thanks to Mike Melnyk for some of the figures.
Labels:
1:32,
54mm,
Arabs,
Britains,
Deetail,
Deetail Knights - Turks,
Make; British,
Medieval,
Plymr - Vinyl/PVC,
Ring Hand,
Saracens,
Turks
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