M is for ♪♪♫♪ Mamma Mia, Here He Goes Again, My-My, How Can I Desist Him? ♫♫♪♪

Oh yes! TJF thought to put paws to keyboard again in the matter of what I'm doing over here!

He started with a pirate ship which first appeared on a Faceplant group (to which we are both associated) back in 2021, and which then appeared here at Small Scale World in September of the same year (I'd been holding them for ITLAPD, and never comment on that poster's stuff) and again in 2022, so he's playing 'Simon says keep-up, catch-up!' there!

 

2021 - https://smallscaleworld.blogspot.com/2021/09/b-is-for-big-boxed-buccaneers-black-boat.html

 

and:

 

2022 - https://smallscaleworld.blogspot.com/2022/09/itlapd-is-for-its-that-long-assorted.html

It has, in fact, been around for some years and had several issues, in several territories, under a half-dozen importers and a plethora of phantom, or in-house brands!

 

Then he managed to spell Plastoy as Plastotoys, which he was literally copying/quoting from a two-week old magazine, in his hands! His stupidity is the gift that keeps on giving, his 'arse-torn-out' is still up there, after a couple of weeks! He was referring to the set we looked at here, a few months ago:

https://smallscaleworld.blogspot.com/2023/09/a-is-for-additional-adventurers.html

Before showing us more new production from someone else's website, and a few figures of merit, he gets on to the nitty-gritty of the day, with the following puff-piece on my post of a few days ago, pertaining to Wing Wah and BMC:

https://smallscaleworld.blogspot.com/2024/02/bmc-is-for-wing-wah-plastic-factory.html

We'll need the coloured crayons for a bit;

Hugh Walter in one of his latest posts talked about finding the BMC Alamo Mexicans on the card with a company name of Wing Wah. Well thank you! As I hardly provided empirical evidence for them being Wing Wah, you've obviously gone off and Googled them and found what was there all along! This card was sold in Greece. Was it? I said that, I might have been lying? You make it up all the time, after all! Don't worry Loyal Readers, I wasn't! He was confused about how the figures got to Greece. Err . . . "confused"? No, I gave the four possible scenarios from the available evidence, which were:

1. BMC licensed a 'generic' Wing Wah set
2. It was issued before BMC's involvement.
3. Wing Wah were just shifting stock behind BMC's back.
4. Wing Wah didn't have an 'exclusive' with BMC for the sculpts/production.
   

To clarify the situation I have to go to the conversations Laurie and I had with Bill McMasters of BMC Toys. Conversations he had more than ten or twenty years ago? With two dead people, and no empirical evidence? Given the level of memory he's shown us, in the past? But, we'll give him the benefit of the doubt! Bill told us he had an arrangement with a Chinese (in 1994 it was still very much a Hong Kong company, based in Hong Kong) company to produce playsets and figures. He provided the sculptures (the quality of the products hardly backs-up that hyperbole, but who are we to argue with a dead man?), box art (undoubtably), and other materials (do tell!). In return, he got an exclusive to sell the product in the United States. The Chinese [Hong Kong] company which we now know as Wing Wah from Hugh had the right to sell to the rest of the world. So the set from Greece is an example of that. As I said, it was?

 

So, firstly, if a 'legend' credits you, what does that make you? And secondly, I preferred my option-two, he is confirming option-four? It doesn't matter, I wasn't "confused", I was on the right tracks and hedging my bets against the available evidence. Now he's told us, we all know! But, it is both hearsay, and hyperbole!

And he's revealed how closely he follows this Blog, his post was two days ago, and I only posted the day before! And he's probably sent some extra traffic to the post, including - one hopes - those members of the PSTSM who are so loyal to The Jabbering Fuck, they really try not to follow my blog, even though the person who told them not to, clearly does . . . he's a very stupid man.

And while TJF also uses the term 'exclusive', generally, an 'exclusive-contract' is when the stuff can't be sold elsewhere, except by, or with the permission of the contractee, or under their logographies, it is in that context I used the word, and as such, was correct.

 

He (McMasters/BMC) didn't have an exclusive, the stuff was sold elsewhere, he had an embargo on- or memorandum of understanding with- Wing Wah for not shipping their product to the States, except in so far as it was for/marked-to BMC.

Bill did several of his playsets with this company until the owner died. The owner’s heirs had a falling out with Bill forcing him to find another company for his playsets. Americana Toy Soldiers came into Wing Wah and arranged to sell the old BMC product.

 

Ah, the red-letter moment! I'll just throw Wing Wah in there, like I knew all along! If you want to know what really happened, read the link at the end, as hinted-at above, TJF's got his memories in a twist!

To situation we will now call them Wing Wah soldiers the answer is no. They have been and will stay at BMC Toys. this is what the public know as well. This sentence is illiterate?

 

We can dispense with the colours now. what he's trying to say in that garbled last line, is pertaining to my red-letter comment, but he has already failed that, in a Godwin'esque fashion, by casually using the name in the previous sentence, as I had predicted people would, although in this case, he has already credited me with the origination!

The point I was making, was that those party's listed last time, would now refer to Wing Wah, when discussing the double-W logo, not the Alamo set specifically, not BMC in general, however as we have discovered before, his comprehension skill is very poor and is matched only by his ability to come to the wrong conclusion!

 

A logo which, prior to my post, some people had written absolute garbage about, tying it - falsely - into/with various other companies, and sometimes describing it - as fact - as a single W - Wello, Welly, Wentoys, Willco, etcetera!

Also, Americana didn't 'come into' Wing Wah, like the Airborne over Grenada! They got some stock, probably through an agent! Wasn't Imex involved at one point? I'd have to go look at tedious files to answer that myself, and it really doesn't matter!

 

Elsewhere (globally: the rest of the world! He's talking about a few hundred American collectors as if the rest of us don't count!), it would have remained Wing Wah, and that may even apply to my Greek set, by dates, I don't know, and I don't really care, the point of the post was identifying Wing Wah, period. Not the intricate, yet inconsequential, vagaries of global shipping programs for bagged, carded or boxed rack-toy import/exports! And to a Greek collector they ARE Wing Wah, as issued by BMC in the 'States!

 

I suspect, eventually we will find that in the UK we got both, with toy-soldeir dealers shipping from BMC, after reading about them in the Winter 1994 edition of Plastic Warrior magazine (issue No. 46), while independent convenience stores would have been getting WW-marked or generic sets from down the Hong Kong rack-toy pipeline, possibly earlier?!

I don't know why he keeps doing this, it's only a week or two since he got - as fact - a figure completely wrong, yet here he is trying to correct me, when I was correct? It's pathetic, it's stupid, and it's destroying any 'legacy' he thought he had? This tired, sad old man, shouting nonsense into the wind!

And then, when it can't get any better on the International Idiocy Scale, the cockwacking monkey-lizard popped up and said this;

I have the pirate ship but with two different poses inside.
I found mine at a theme park few years back .
Thanks for making clarification in the BMC history .
Is always great to set the facts straights rather than assumptions or made out tales run around free .

 

Yes! Yes, it is illiterate funk! He spaffed his pocket-money on some words from a dodgy geezer in the car-lot behind the diner, and then glued them together blindfold, it's a good effort! It's like a mutual-appreciation society of fuckwits, they never land their punches, and then I rip them to shreds, again! Even their fans must be getting bored with it now?

Some imagery from Bill B's 1987 trade catalogue. Yes, I've been sitting on it for years, I keep telling you there's about 800-and-something articles in the long queue, and yes, TJF should have learnt by now that whenever I reveal/reacquaint the hobby with one of these Hong Kong producers, there is usually more than one post to come!

 

You will note there are similarities with the output of both Rado Industries (Ri-Toys, the landing craft) and Kwong Shing-KS-Kamley-Kositoys (the aircraft and Chieftain tank), but sometimes when you study them next to each other, there are subtle differences, different wheels, different release-pin marks, dimensions &etc. Equally, they bought and sold this junk to each-other, or from third-parties, to make up the sets, so while it is my hope, one day, to attribute some of it, more definitively, that's still a big "We will see?"!

 

In the meantime, bog-standard Airfix figure piracies, with various accessories, which by the mid-1980's were starting to look like the tired 1970's fare they were! And the brighter among you will have noticed the base-undersides of the Wing Wah Alamo figures, bear a resemblance to the Crescent copy ceremonials we looked at a while ago, and some of the Herald ACW copies out there, could they (factory painted) be earlier product of Wing Wah?

 

There's not enough evidence to call it, but it's food-for-thought . . . for the thoughtful, not for idiotic morons like TJF and his sidekick!

 

And I should add that all the above, and everything in the previous post pertains to the previous iteration of BMC, under the leadership of the late Mr. McMasters, and not the current iteration of BMC (VictoryBuy Inc.) with Jeff Imel at the helm, he bought the intellectual property of the older firm, and others, and probably some late stock, but the improved Alamo figures are re-sculpts (2018'ish?), with new bases, and no aspersions are intended to be cast on the new BMC by either post.

 

And Mr. Imel explains it all somewhat more clearly than Mr. Stadinger, here:

 

https://warhorseminiatures.com/2017/09/04/an-interview-with-jeff-imel-and-the-return-of-bmc-toys/

BB is for Blue Box

Except that prior to BBI nobody used BB except Mr. Sell, who abbreviates everything! An uninspiring heading, but a simplified one I don't think we've actually had before, and it's a rather uninspired article I'm afraid, unless you're very new to the hobby, in which case you won't even get the Sell reference, but might get a lot, or something, from these images!

 

I shot the mounted Japanese officer as I was putting them into storage, but the shots didn't add much to what had gone before, so the folder just lay there, I got some more unpainted ones as 'bi-catch' with a lot of British Infantry (the only 1960/70's Blue Box figure I still need from the four sets now, is a decent British mine-clearer, they are always either broken or short-shots!) so shot them again, and at some points I spent a few minutes shooting the mounted figures again - twice!

 

So there were all these images in a folder, none of which add much to previous posts on the subject, therefore it's not a follow-up, it's not a box-ticker, I guess it's just a Picasa-clearer! I'll throw them up here, move a couple around and with minor captions, let the images tell their own story, remembering to thank Nazar Marchenko who filled the original gaps in my fledgling sample, eight years ago.

Painted officer, mounted

 

Comparison between painted and unpainted officers

Horses are different colours

 

More! More officers, more horses, another horse colour

Unpainted set of foot figures from both sides

Random shots and a base-mark with the '3' cavity numeral

Top image is plastic-colour variants isn't it!

Mostly unpainted against a few painted

Must have been a late-in trio?

All the unpainted's from both sides and the officer

An evilBay lot, which appears to suggest, as I'd mused . . . mooted (?) in the past, that they all had an issue, at some point, with the plug-in 'farm/zoo workers' base, as that's Aussies, Japs and Germans now found either with the green oblong base, or, in this case, needing them!

 

With three horses and only two riders, a long term goal is to find a third rider and paint him up, with a set of the infantry.

F is for Follow-up - Remembrance Sunday

Which this is, all day! Brian Burke sent me some fascinating images yesterday, by way of a follow-up to the poppy post I left up yesterday morning, while waiting for my pick-up in the early hours, for onward transport to the toy show!

I think this is a lovely poppy! This (left) is an American one, and in Brian's own words;

 

"On the right UK, from some years ago when in the UK in October, on the left USA from two years ago. Hard to find here where Veterans Day is not the same meaning as UK and Poppies are sold by Veterans of Foreign Wars members (VFW Posts)"

 

I had no idea the American did them, albeit as a minority thing? And I love the little beady centre to the poppy, and the fact that it's got a more environmentally friendly wire stalk with green paper wrap, like those bunches of mushrooms, grapes or mini-baubles you can get for Christmas trees, flower arranging, cheese-boards &etc., and which are among the oldest surviving decorations still findable.

 

So many thanks to Brian for that speedy follow-up! I also think, Australia/NZ do them as well as Canada, are any of them different to the Haig Fund/British Legion ones, they must be, even if it's only the message in the centre?

And it's funny, I 'ummed & ahrred' about my last paragraph in the previous post, but decided - with everything else going on - to leave it in the post anyway, I do wear my heart on my sleeve, as well as a poppy on my breast, and subsequent events involving Tommy Yaxley-Lennon Robinson Wanker and his Right Wing mates attacking the Cenotaph (as Madame Cruella and the tabloid press, as good as invited them to) while the 'Left Wing' Ceasefire in Palestine march behaved itself elsewhere in London at the same time, only proved I was right to do so, that I was correct in speaking out.

The Left is right, and the Right is wrong, always has been, always will be . . . all of Human History is about the slow progress (oh so slow) of the Left, of tolerance, of liberal values, of science over 'belief', and the sacrifices in all wars are for that aim of a better world, not a worse one. In the last 15-odd years, the Global establishment as been dragging us into a worse world, and a bigger war is coming. Please, this day, of all days . . . Remember them.

A

LB is for Lik Be!

Because it's a B! More on that in a mo', first a quick reminder of the carded robot set I picked-up a while ago and showed briefly the other day;

 

The robot shape-specific blister means another set with the other three is a probable certainty, although that is itself an oxymoron, but you know what I mean! Wotan over at Moonbase has specialised in the chunky-monkey one, and I'm pretty sure he has one of these faux-vitreous ones, so the other three are out there!

 

But that logo . . . the clearest or 'best' yet; it's a B, isn't it? A 'B' for the Be of Lik Be, not Lik Pe, not Lick Pea, and definitely not Lick Pee!

 

I realised looking at this, that the two uprights are - roughly - centred, so the whole monogram is actually placed to the right, with room to the left (as we look at it) for the 'sun' rays in white, coming out from the centre to be visible, under the monsters arm. On the right you have the dark rays going in, but no white rays coming-out, because there's the bottom curve of a bloody-great B in the way!

 

It's a pain, it's always been a too-busy, shit-rendered, poor logo design, but get used to it, it's LB for Lik Be, and you read it here first, twice, several years apart; 'cos I'm calling it again!

 

The Robots; Police Motorcycle, well, that's how I've always thought of him, or 'Motorcycle Cop' but he could just as easily be ray-gunning, pressure-washing the streets or painting hoardings! In the style of the fake glass-animals which also came out of Hong Kong, he's moulded in clear 'styrene and overpainted in transparent yellow and jade.

 

I used to call this one Marcel Marceau, but now I call it Vichy (cheese eating surrender monkey) in homage to Mathias and his mob! Minimal decoration on an already weak sculpt, sums this one up!

 

Stern Gang! He's always wears a clear, definate, permanant frown, and one feels he should be the sidekick for the 'Darth' sculpt in the Airfix Space Warriors set?

 

I also picked-up a loose set of the ones I've already got in a bagged-set (seen here at Small Scale World passim), so they can stay there! The other three I call Lobster (obviously!) Rocket Robin and I can't remember what I used to call the fat one, but nowadays, it's just Wotan!

 

I've had two lots of the small scale versions come-in recently as well, all marked originals; gunmetal polyethylene above, and chromed hard plastic below (with a few knock-off spacemen), both samples having no Lobster!

 

A poor factory-paint version and another sucker copy have also been added to the pile, and I nicked the mustard-yellow image from eBay a while back I think, cropped-out of a larger image, The soft plastic large-scale are pierced for key-rings/fobs/chains, so must be later production.

 

The small scale Bike Cop has quite different arm sculpts from the larger one, who has 'cup and ball' hands and elongated upper-arm segments, against the smaller one's flatter-cup (potato masher!) and pointer (Biro!), with double ball-joint arms.

S is for Sharper & Sharper!

Really, an 'F is for Follow-up...' on pencil sharpeners, but as the collection of these 'KT' and related figural pieces grows, there's a sharpness there to the sample as a whole! And I've said before not every title works, but that was my thinking, and if I try to think of a better one, I'll lose interest and can-it for another few months!

 

 

I managed to acquire the guardsmen on a sharpener, confirming a previous suggestion that he was part of this set, so I get to use the 'Told You So' tag again, which annoys my 'eemies' and pleases me! Anyone out there in the hobby who thinks I'm going away hasn't smelt the coffee yet. Anyone out there who thinks I can be cowed hasn't been paying attention.

In all the follow-ups, contributions and acquisitions of these I forget what's what and what I've got, but suffice to say we saw the boxed one a while ago, and I've now found the pair of non-pencil sharpener dancers, just for completion, there may be a connection with Magneto (post forthcoming), and if Christian Hardy goes and looks it up he could be a day ahead of me instead of a day behind, I'd say the same to Mr. Ripoll but he's too busy clutching the monarch's shaft! I had no idea I was being followed that closely, here and elsewhere, by all these nonentities!

I've also picked-up both the Asian dancers previously supplied as images by Brian Wagstaff, so there's more completion there, and despite looking out for others, it seems to be the same ones which keep turning-up?

 

Likewise, the Indian girl, who we saw last time we looked at these (a straight lift of the Commonwealth sculpt), was needed as a physical entity, but she does suggest a cowboy might still be out there (on a round sharpener) in addition to those we've seen from 'W. Germany'.

 

 

Comparison of the bases revealed that the new guardsman has a slightly different sharpener with an opening in the 'wall' of the sharpener's case, at the far end. Probably only a batch/age of design thing, or a KT specific thing, the guardsman is the only KT-marled plug-in, but I'm not about to start looking for another version of each found so far! The other four additions are the unmarked ones, with the base and figure as a single moulding.

 

 

Finally, I saw these, and thought they were fun, some age to them; 1950's I'd imagine?

 

And for those who missed it, or have forgotten it, here's a link to a completely different subject, which I posted elsewhere yesterday, in all innocence to help a chap out - seems to have caused a ripple, in the lake of idiocy!

F is for Follow-up - AWI and Cake Dec's

When I originally posted these, in a rather irreverent article, I mused on the origins of the red versus blue versions of the Airfix Washington's Army figures, a while later I actually saw some blue ones, on a US sale page, so that part of the mystery was solved and my improbable tale of how the UK came to have a bunch of redcoats seems more plausible now!

But, anyhoos, the other two sets in the recent charity shop purchase were this pair . . .

 

. . . both in SSCO packing (I've seen them in others now), and showing one way the Americans got them, six infantry in one pack and the mounted officer (glued to his horse in this case) in the other, so while still outnumbered by my redcoat sample, they have a fighting chance now, and the three musicians of the previous post to chivvy them along!

 

Alternate angle/close-ups, they are the same figures, almost certainly from Lik Be (formerly 'LP' . . . or IDL!), they share the same base style and marks as both the redcoats available over here and the pair of astronauts which joined LB's diminutive chrome-painted robot/aliens - of which I picked up a few, mint, the other day in a charity shop!

 

I haven't got their matching-set here at the moment, so it's a comparison with the slightly larger, baseless set, but you'll get the idea from the previous posts on these, and we will do a round-up of all of them when I track-down the two missing figures for that chap the other day . . . other week . . . month! Another box ticked, more confirmation of previous thoughts!

And [written after editing the article] this isn't a return to business as normal here, despite the fact this was one of the next few in the queue. The MacBook Air went back for a full refund, it was a dated technicolour yawn of multiscreen busyness, and for the price, a complete disappointment - and I've always hankered after one; looked into it about 15 years ago and gave it more thought when first doing CAD back in 2012/13!

 

So with the HPieceofshit17 already on its way back to Amazon, I went back to a Lenovo, if my government is happy for me to buy Chinese shit full of spyware, who am I to argue? But Windows11 is also shit, and I still don't know where half the stuff I have got across is! It's a depressing nightmare, and with everything else going on, I don't know when normal service will resume, but I will try to get out a few easy or new-stuff posts going forward - a lot has come in!

I've actually managed to add some shots to the 'civilian' post of the canoe 'season', but apart from that and the Airfix post (additions to the Commandos) which was to go early too, the rest are still on one of the hard drives and after trying to 'migrate' the back-up, I'm in no hurry to load anything else on here until I know what the fuck I'm doing!

And I've just had problems loading these images, they wouldn't go where I was trying to place them, I tried formatting the page to normal, but they kept going in down the bottom, so in the end I gave up and moved all the text in sections . . . Pain! Still, it's not all negative, I'm back with Firefox; if everything else has changed you might as well bite the bullet and get used to new everything, and the current spellchecker for it is much better even than the Windows Office one!

F is for Follow-up and Fervent, Faithful Flag-waving, Fifes & Drums!

I think I mentioned back in the autumn, or possibly during Rack Toy Month that one of my bad habits is to post something, then, after I've alerted/reminded you all of them/the subject, go off to evilBay and see what's [still] there! I did it after the AWI post the other day, and managed to find a charity lot (yellow & blue ribbon icon) with six sets of cake decorations!

Among which were these three, so I grabbed the lot (cheap, buy-it-now) and they got here a couple of days ago. It's some of the other Sprit of '76 branded stuff, with the figures I described the other day as "...short-fat-kid caricatures", here - on the left - a patriotic flag waving lady-girl and what is their fifth drummer - within the line. On the right we have patriotically-dressed kissin' cousin's!

Flag lady could double as a pencil top, while the seat of the kissing pair is of more interest, as I have suggested for years that the based-set of Airfix piracies are by Lik Be, due to the similarity of the bases to both the marked robot/alien types and the late set of two astronauts and flag with lunar lander, or at least (as it was in One Inch Warrior magazine I think, so years ago and 'LP') that the maker of the astronauts was the same as the maker of the Airfix Washington's Army pirates . . .

. . . and here, courtesy of Bill B's catalogue is the same bench-settee/love-seat, now providing a place of repose for an elderly couple, in a Lik Be trade advertisement. So I get to use the 'Told you so' tag which annoys some people; but it's the reason I use it!

Clearly LiK Be were supplying (among 'ethylene monsters, 'styrene space stuff and 'funimals' in both polymers) a lot of the wishy-washy white polystyrene plastic cake decorations carried by many brands both sides of the pond.

While these might be by another maker and are obviously another brand, the reverse of the card says "made and packed in Hong Kong", so Emilie is probably a pseudonym for dozens of outworkers!

I'm guessing we have Betsy and Abe here! But the same over-sentimentalised 'kidults', this time with just the big heads, and the painting of the Lincoln-alike hasn't reached the 'stars & stripes' excesses of the Spirit figures!

F is for Follow-up - Spojnia . . . or Hobby EME

When we looked at those Spojnia Kioskowce small-scale copies, from Maciej Jasinski's Poland, the other day, I mentioned that I still had to post some Napoleonics by the same maker - well that won't happen as you'll see in the next few posts, but I did find that I had a bunch of other Spójnia stuff, so we're going to work through it.

I also said I thought they ended-up being called Hobby EME, and here we see a set in that later (or just alternate?) branding, being copies of Esci-ERTL's WWII US Infantry, and all fifteen poses have been taken; to quite a high standard, albeit; not Ecsi's finest in the first place!

While here we see the Italian Mountain Troops taken from the same company, and again they've re-used all the poses, but this time there is a noticeable drop-off in quality/finish and if you didn't know better you might think them Spanish Sobres or even Hong Kong/China knock-off's . . . now you've seen them - you know better! And one of Esci's nicer sets, of a - then (mid/late 1980's) - unusual subject.

I also reacquainted myself with the fact I have the 'Hindu Brigade' set too, taken from Atalntic's Indian Brigade (as before - they are dressed as Sikhs, not Hindus!), which answered my question last time about the bladed weapons, they seem to have copied two (of the original Atlantic set's three), and while I have one each of the two users (the third figure to have a 'kukri' in the Atlantic set has his holed filled-in, in this clone-set); Maciej's set had pairs of each, in fact he had pairs of everything, I also only have one MG and gunner.

The other point to note (for packaging collectors) is that while mine (left) has the full Spojnia consumer-panel's info-text (in the yellow box, bottom right-hand corner), Mr. Jasinski's has a blank panel there (top right image) and may represent a crossover from Spójnia to Hobby EME, if the latter was actually later!

M is for Monster Fantasies

I knew this set (or something like it) had to exist, as those dinosaurs which appeared to be LB (LP) were much smaller (and less silly) than the 'funimals' they seem to be numbered in sequence with, while I had tentatively ID'd the four cave-men as LP (now LB) some time ago, so when I saw this going for a song on feeBay, I grabbed it!

An absolutely 'classic' rack toy; an assortment of figures and animals with no attention to either physical scale or geological time-scale, in some whacky coloured plastic with gloss paint fired at them by a blind man! Really; I should have opened Rack Toy Month with this post, but I forgot they were in the queue!

We have pretty-much done these to death now (first with a clean sample from Adrian Little and then with a look at my larger 'in storage' sample - when they came out of storage!), but to confirm the assumption they were Lik Be here is a clean sample, and to add to previous musings on the legs, all four have been given the same legs, so it must have been done by batch, not pose! Also, the 'blood', spread rather liberally on some of mine, seems to have been meant to represent the wood of the bow and spear!

We get two contemporaneous prehistoric mammals which I have identified as vague renditions of a Dinocerata type (on the left), although all the real ones have paired horns/tusks, while this one has them as in-line singles, probably for ease of moulding, but it makes him a unique HK-species! The other is a more accurate Macrauchenia, except when I say accurate; I'm ignoring the blue plastic!

Going back a 100-million years or more we get two larger dinosaurs, conforming to the bog-standard rack-toy plant-eater and a duck-billed chap (or chapess), they are what they are, and might have been pink-on-yellow, we don't really know! In point of fact, some of the stuff being found now (in sedimentary beds in places like the Gobi Desert) gives very good colour clues (and feathers) and can be tied into surviving lizards and reptiles.

These are tiny, and I mean 'Micro' sized (and are mostly another 50-million-odd years earlier?), with a baby meat-eater and various other infants, including my smallest Dimetrodon to date! From the poses, I think some of them are copied down from larger rack toys around in the late 1960's-1970's, some of which are still with us in Hing Fat's tool-set!

For those who - like me - are trying to build a complete listing of LB's known/marked/numbered stuff, here are what I can make out on these;

Prehistoric Sets

1046-20 - Monster Fantasies

'Micro-mini' Dinosaurs

   73 - Brontosaurus [or] Diplodocus (no 'A', larger)

A74 - 'Duck-billed Dinosaur' (larger)

A75 - Ankylosaurus (smaller)

A76 - Dimetrodon (smaller)

A77 - Triceratops (smaller)

A78 - 'Carnivore' (smaller)

   79 - Stegosaurus (no 'A', smaller)

Cavemen (each with a choice of three different un-numbered legs and three loin-cloth designs)

No. A80 - Waving Axe

No. A81 - Archer with Bow

No. A82 - Raising/Throwing Rock

No. A83 - Long Spear/Sharpened Stake

Prehistoric Animals

No. A111 - Macrauchenia (Prehistoric Camel/Giraffe Ancestor/Ant-eater)

No. A126 - Dinocerata-like (Large, Tusked Mega-mammal)

2025 - The prehistoric mammals and dinosaurs here, seem to have been copied from the larger sculpts of the Holly Plastic Factory (HP), and LB also copied six of the ten-odd, of the 'Gygax' monster sculpts from Holly, now posted here;

https://smallscaleworld.blogspot.com/2025/08/g-is-for-gygax-monsters-part-v-lik-be.html

B is for Bullshit and Bollocks! And Be . . . Like . . . Lik Be!

Do you remember back in 2017 when I found it necessary to put the diabolical-duo right on the LB thing (worth a read to contextualise this post)? It had come out of previous posts I had published on the range of Blue Box, Lucky and other copies of various Western sculpts within the oeuvre of Hong Kong civilian-vehicle/vehicle set's  production.

"We will have to disagree...."

But let's first go back to January of that year, both TJF (Stadinger - the Jabbering Fuck) and his sidekick are waxing lyrical about an IDL? No italics because it's not a real company! I don't think I corrected them at that time, they get so much wrong, so often, it's a bind to follow it all - Grand announcement/title block on 'Crescent Guardsmen' the other day and he showed us Zang's; then, irony of ironies, the other week he gets Jecsan (the same Jecsan he 'corrected' me on) wrong! He's not a "Legend", he's an idiot!

Irrespective of whatever they'd been saying, I had been preparing a set of articles which published over a few days in the March (of 2017) and culminated in a long post pulling all the loose-ends together, and in which I also proposed a theory on LB and Lucky being one and the same. Within three days they - the twat twins - were having their little pop at me or 'some people'.

Earlier in the same article TJF goes on to further 'educate' us with the following;

"One thing Erwin uncovered is that each figure not only has the name of IDL and Hong Kong..."

D'ya'see? he 'uncovered' it, sort of like a 'discovery' (they're good at those too!) but you have to really dig at it, by . . . err . . . turning the figure over and finding the same information previously published elsewhere (by your 'emies') has been left on the base - and then (ignoring fifteen years of hobby-accepted wisdom) misread it! Too funny, they're both too funny!

So we had the above-linked 'logo' post, to re-establish what had been common knowledge in the hobby for some fifteen or twenty years, except - obviously - where Mr Standinger and Mr Sell were concerned; they being happy to A) remain in ignorance and B) use that ignorance to try and score points in their silly war with me.

What I perhaps didn't address fully enough (I did say "The contention I referred to in the post linked to above, was the relationship I postulated to, as existing between LP [now LB] and The Lucky Toys, not the logo...") was the core of TJF's statement - that I was saying it meant Lucky Products. I wasn't and I hadn't, I'd said it was LB [not IDL].

In fact, I had gone out of my way to explain that it was a theory, that other people disagreed with me (in private correspondence) and had  reason to, given the lack of empirical evidence (to back up my theory), but nevertheless gave the circumstantial evidence that had led to my proselytising the theory.

Now . . . those of you who have been following events over the last ten months will know "that evidence (of any kind) 'against' or for a firmer, alternative narrative . . . " (as I put it at the time) has now turned up courtesy of Bill B and/or Alphadrome! But before we fire the salvo to sink my theory (which only remains a theory until proved or disproved!) forever, let's return to the latest from the fraudulent-frères over at shitestuff.

Erwin is now the world expert on, not only LB, but idiots who mistake it for IDL! Idiots like 2017's Erwin and his Jedi Master . . . that's Master Bates to you! "...confused and wrong labeled..."? Who? Who Erwin? Who was that man who confused and wrong-labeled it while trying to attack me . . . twice!!!!?

You really can't make it up. He is waxing lyrical spouting illiterately the very information I had to give him, as if he's known it for years! He then goes on to list the colors in the order they have appeared previously in other people's posts, sometimes as long ago as a decade!

But, being a phony and a fraud, he's only caught-up with where the hobby was on the subject a year ago; had he been paying more attention to his plagiarism he could have told us they were Lik Be . . . and probably, actually LB!

Which brings us back to my [now dead] theory and as to why there's more of my stuff in this post than is normally called-for when countering the shite issuing-forth from other_peoples_stuff_cos_im_a_dealer_not_a_collector.com

I was myself rather suspicious when Lik Be was magically slipped into a picture caption on another site last autumn, but subsequent work by Bill B, in the spring just gone, revealed the truth.

AND . . . could it be that after all these years . . .

. . . the LP is actually a poorly executed LB? I'm not calling-it . . . yet . . . too busy; I've got a bunch of tags to change and I'll be sticking with 'LP - Lik Be' for the moment . . . but - given the company's name -  it would make sense; Lik[-Be] Plastics or Lik Be. . . ooh! I think I've got a new theory! . . . 

Meanwhile the only 'legendary' thing over at shitestuff is how they can cover for their own mistakes with time and bullshit, while castigating others for theirs! 

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A few weeks later; It is isn't it? I'll 'call it'; the more I look at it the more sure I am, new tag; 'LB (LP) - Lik Be', I think it's gotta'be, despite the poor artwork . . . there are worse Hong Kong logo's around, the next correction will be 'AJP''s wanna'be Blue Box sets - actually HP!*

You will also have noticed - if you followed the link, that the tagging has been done and to be fair, most posts still read OK as I was careful to keep the theory and the figures separate (really only the tag that was joined), but a few caveats will need to be added to the round-up post in the plastic-vehicle series and the 'LP' logo post, requiring links to this which can't be done until this posts; the vagiaries of Blogger, but it will all be updated by the weekend . . . I hope!

 

* 2025 - HP is for Holly Plastics Factory! So yes, two callings in one post, deffinately worth a 'Told You So'