In which we find Paul Stadinger changes his mind, proves me right and yet apparently claims it as a victory? My bits in green.
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Coma Plastic, Res Plastic,
BASA ETC. Hugh Walter’s Conspiracy
Posted on April 23, 2017 by admin
Coma Plastic, Res Plastic, BASA ETC. Hugh
Walter’s Conspiracy
Beyond parody, beyond fucking-paraody!
Thick as pig-shit
Thick as pig-shit
we are back again on the subject of the Res
Plastic Romans. In Hugh Walter Strikes and Hits Again (glad
you agree with me - "...hits again...'' - too funny!) we responded to Hugh’s attack
on BASA Romans that Erwin had shown. Hugh claimed that they were Res Plastic (I showed - with a screen-cap of Erwin's post - they
were) and had been imported into Peru (some
were!). He based that on a RP on the back of his figure (no; on the back of Erwins figure, my figure was to prove
the point). Problem is the ones from Peru do not have the RP (but Erwin said they were? I'm all 'mix and confuse'). We stated BASA was known (by whom? Evidence) for buying molds (evidence?) of other companies and produced them
there in Peru. At that point it should have been end of the story (why?). Instead Hugh has decided to continue his
attack. He feels that we are trying to cover up the truth (because you are; not covering up the truth - covering up
your previous bullshit). Hugh has become so much like those conspiracy
writiers that I see in the alternate media.
Coma Plastic, Res Plastic, BASA ETC. Hugh
Walter’s Conspiracy Coma Plastic
Since Hugh has continued his attack I did more
research into the matter (but? You've already given
us the definitive 'truth'? When you accused me of 'missing again'?). My
first stop was Plastic Warrior Roman Special by Peter Evans (ah yes! The publication you've been re-posting as
Erwin-fact on and off for the last 18 months!). Peter has a Roman figure
running with sword in the air on the page 8 under Italian production (no there isn't, there are two on page 5 and one on page
9?). The figure is in silver. Peter has classified the figure as Coma
not Res Plastic! The figure under discussion, and
mentioned by yourselves last time was on page 35, it is RP - it belonged to me, no one has questioned the origins of Coma's figures, nor the figures on page
5 or 9, still - nice attempted deflection! And Peter might be wrong?
Erwin's figure - not mine!
The figures you both originally said
weren’t there, even though they were and which you - here - are now saying
aren’t the right ones at all, neither [apparently] are the ones you said were
last time! Too funny.
If you are right here, will Erwin be
going back to the forum and explaining he made it all up as he went along
again? Some hell-of-a-correcting needed there - if you're right here?
With that piece of information (? Too funny) I checked the internet for
information on Coma. I found out that Coma did figures in the 60’s
and 70’s (no one has claimed they didn't, indeed
they've been quite well-documented now?). Also I found a Coma catalog on
line. The catalog had a history of the company.
Here is comment on their figures from
their catalog I have translated it into English.
“soldiers in soft plastic unstained (scale 1:32),
55 mm height, including Alpini, infantry marine and Bersaglieri, Musketeers,
Marines, Roman Legionnaires, Barbarians, Southerners, mediovali, Avieri, sold
in packs of 6 figures That's Google-translate not
you-translate! Nothing's straight with you two!
http://www.rivarossi-memory.it/Altre_Marche/Edilmec-Coma/Edilmec-Coma.htm
Notice the above section gives that the Romans are
55mm height and in packs of six figures. The Romans from BASA
are six different and 55mm in height (last time you
were telling us they were definitely the smaller ones!). So the
mold that BASA has (evidence?) is the Coma
not Res Plastic. Says who, what evidence? You have
now - between the two of you - tried to pass three different sets of figures
off as being the definitive made by Basa
ones, when they probably only imported a single type!
Coma Plastic, Res Plastic, BASA ETC. Hugh
Walter’s Conspiracy Roman Figure
[He then shows three
pictures of what is clearly and without question an Italian (not Peruvian) Co-Ma/CoMa/Coma (take your pick,
everyone else does) figure, a figure which has never been under suspicion, nor have
its origins been questioned, or at least; not by me]
I went through my figure collection and found
that I had the above Roman figure. The figure was measured. He
was found to be 55mm. I have tried to blow up the photo of
the back of the figure. Unfortunately the black color of the figure does
not help. It does not have any markings (why would
it? It's Coma). This is a Coma Roman. It
is, well done.
I also looked at two Res Plastic merry men (? What sort of a comparison is that?! Different size,
different series, different material!) that had been produced in South
America (By whom? DSG?) I did find any
marking (?). Hugh has shown no hard
documentation that it is a Res Plastic (what is?
The merry man?). so typical of typical someone is a conspiracy
writier.? A conclusion without logic; from a
sentence which makes no sense!
I've shown you a screen cap of Erwins
RP figure; the one he claimed was Basa, then claimed wasn't there and
shots of the RP figure on page 35 of Peter's
book - which was the figure you were claiming-for last time you tried to draw a
line under this!
Coma Plastic, Res Plastic, BASA ETC. Hugh
Walter’s Conspiracy The Secret Empire
Hugh like so many other conspiracy writiers (yeah! Those 'writiers' they get everywhere, shouldn't be
allowed!) has to have some evil entity (WTF?
Still toooo funny! Call me 'Evilentity Man'!). He calls
me the Penn State Toy Soldier Mafia (no I don't,
stop bigging-yourself up, I refer to a grouping of East-coast gobshite's as the
PSTSM, you just run the scandal-sheet). There is a problem with that
name it so bogus (baby-talk). Penn State is
a university which I have no association with or want (more
baby-talk). Mafia is negative term and offensive to Italians (oh boo-hoo, you pathetic, shrinking violet!).
I do not head any secret group (who said it was
secret?). My web site has a goal of sharing information on toy
soldiers. We let people know new production, share information on old
figures and promote collector’s projects. We have no secret agenda, we just
want to fun. Whine, whine, fucking-whine!
Coma Plastic, Res Plastic, BASA ETC. Hugh
Walter’s Conspiracy
Hugh like most conspiracy writiers (Those bloody 'writiers' again, aren't they German
knights?) have to add things that do not anything to do with the main
topic (what? And you're not just about to! Too
funny). In his attack on the BASA Plastic Hugh had (I didn't have to, I chose to) to make swipes at
me.
1. I have not made a comment in his site (no - you've made several!). I have a policy
on not commenting on an adversarial (there
- you said it, took you a while, over six months (probably longer); but there's
the truth, and that's why you fall-out with everybody - you see them all as 'adversaries';
competitors, not fellow-collectors) site. This goes back to when Tom
Terry of PFPC took a photo I send him to make fun of me. It was because
I would not bow to his will on a certain matter. Someone-else you've fallen-out with Paul? What "certain matter"? He was probably
right!
What's this then - Scotch mist?
Liar! (again!)
Are you too stupid to remember you
commented on my Blog, do you believe you didn't? Or are you so delusional and arrogant
you thought I'd be too stupid to know where they are a few days after I pointed
out they were there? Too funny - whichever way the stupidity flows.
2. Several cracks of us being drunk (wrong - read it again - dumb-fuck).
I drink very little alcohol. At most I will have a glass of wine or
half a can of cider. in a day. I was even this way years before my Atrial
fibrillation. I know Erwin is the same way. To even impile (ouch!) that a person is drunk without
knowing the truth is reprehensible. Wayne; you
hear the man - you're reprehensible!
It was Wayne - not me! Fuckwit! I
just pointed out the idiotic logic of the comment! You are too stupid Stadinger,
really, how can you get this from my pointing out the latent hypocrisy hidden
in Wayne's misguided attempt at humour (made on a Sunday, on a post posted on
err . . . a Sunday)? I didn't say anyone was drunk - I pointed out that if I
was 'in my cups' because it was a weekend when I posted (Wayne's hinted
inference), then all those whose comments and posts were made on weekends (including
those by you, Erwin and other PSTSM'ers), must be assumed to involve alcohol as
well, Jesus! Stad, you're as thick as pig-shit.
Child abuse is 'reprehensible', what
the West have done in Iraq and Afghanistan is 'reprehensible', walking away
from the Paris Climate Agreement Treaty is 'reprehensible'; calling someone
drunk when they're not [which I didn't anyway] is mildly annoying at worst
Stad, you melodramatic, over-excitable, drama-queen!
[Wayne - at worst; you mildly annoyed
me!]
3. I am shadowing him. I only look at his
site. Before his attacks on Erwin I would see his spiel on the
items he had found. Now I have to look at his silly attacks on Erwin
and me. You've just shadowed me for the whole
of June! You regularly . . No; do you know what - separate post for this one!
4. Complaint about me blogging about shows I have
not attended. There are many shows I would like to attend but due to various
reasons I cannot. People who go are kind enough to share their photos
and/or their impressions of the show. The people are fully credit.
It is one of our most popular features. I have done a lot of my own
reporting on shows. Ditto
I could go on but I see no further reason to
continue to defend Erwin and myself from these bias and other wrong
statements. Then you "go on" anyway! . . . Too funny!
Coma Plastic, Res Plastic, BASA ETC. Hugh
Walter’s Conspiracy Hugh Stupid Move HEAY! Don't
knock my 'Move', man, it's got me more tail-action than my 'Stand Still'!
Hugh not content to just attack Erwin and me
attacked the people who made a comment. This was so wrong on so many levels
including possible copyright violations (WTF?
Quoting people in full and crediting them, by name, for their own idiocy is not
a copyright anything - too fucking stupid). It is typical of a
bully trying to scare people. Problem for Hugh it has the opposite
effect. These people will see what jerk he is and will not support him (I've had to ask people not to support me, and
rescheduled things to prevent others getting drawn-in, not something which
bothers the members of the PSTSM). Hugh attacks one of the
responders Darren Hatley twice. First because Darren a fellow Englishman Hugh
felt he should side with him. (I don't think he
should side with me, and never said so, indeed I wouldn't want him to; his
sycophancy makes my skin crawl. I do think he's wrong to side with a couple of
idiot fuckwits, but reading his comment below I guess it's simply 'birds of a
feather'?) Second time Hugh claims he is a fake name (err... no, I said someone else thought he might
be). Darren is real. I have told him if he is ever at a show that
Paul Morehead of Plastic Warrior to show his photo id. Aurh!
Childish, schoolyard stuff, isn't it Paul?
I would not go against any of the people who
comment on his site. His recent attack did not any comments. Translation please? I've asked people not to comment,
it's my fight, started by you! And people who comment on posts of this kind -
on either site - are lowering themselves to the level of the gutter, getting
involved, and can't complain if their comments are subsequently scrutinised -
it's called fair play and free speech!
Coma Plastic, Res Plastic, BASA ETC. Hugh
Walter’s Conspiracy Final Thoughts
So through empirical proof (an
Italian catalogue on an Italian site about an Italian toy company is not empirical-anything
of anything Peruvian!) we have show these [this] figures are [is] Coma not Res Plastic (well
. . you've just identified you figure correctly as being Coma (Italian) and changed your mind from the 'Srikes Again' post; now between the
two of you, you have contradicted each-other and yourselves, you've shown - here - a Coma figure no one is arguing with, you
haven't shown it's Basa just claimed
it is; your third choice of definitive Basa
figure!). Hugh has not shown any documented information
other one figure is marked with a RP (Erwin's
screen-capped figure is marked RP, my
figure was marked RP?). Like
so many other conspiracy writiers he will cling is misinformation. I proved Erwin was bullshitting, that's all I needed to
do, That Basa imported or carried
some figures from Coma, Res or DSG is not and never has been at question.
That they made them is still in question, while that the RP's in Erwins original post were Basa product was clearly a falsehood.
You have shown no evidence -
empirical or otherwise - for Basa's
production (or mould-holding) AND; have passed three sets of figures off
as being 'definitely' the Basa ones.
And indeed - I guess from the above you are struggling to comprehend what
'empirical' evidence is.
Hugh is like a person I know named Don. Don is the
same way as Hugh very opinonated (damn right! You
only get one life! Don't waste it being a worm). I saw Don being showed
his information was wrong and going back wrong information the next day.
Today Don is shunned by his former friends as they tired of his attitude. I suspect Don is yet another of the many you have
fallen-out with, you're a serial-offender Stad! Why don't you support and
promote the US magazines, as I do ours? Because you've fallen out with them!
In regards to Hugh I am not going to waste anymore
time on him (you've said that before!). He
can go rant on his site all he wants. We will continue to publish our
articles. I am sure he will publish another 14 pages of diatribe drivel. Hahahaha! If you're going to throw my vocabulary back at
me you really should Google it so that you comprehend the words you're using
and understand how to use them! Drivel, yeah, Diatribe, absolutely, drivellous
diatribe even, maybe, at a pinch, but "diatribe
drivel" . . . oh dear!
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10 Responses to Coma Plastic, Res Plastic, BASA
ETC. Hugh Walter’s Conspiracy
Here we
go! More people wanting to get involved, wanting to stick their oar-in, get
their beef off their chest, not bullies, oh no, I'm the bully, little old me,
all by myself; responding!
Mark T. says:
April 24, 2017 at 2:16 AM
The personal attacks on you and Erwin are really
uncalled for and quite bizarre, especially considering the argument is over
obscure decades-old toy soldiers. Life is too short for this sort of thing. Mr.
Walter really ought to just drop this whole matter before it consumes him. I
once had a friend who let a minor disagreement get the better of him like this
and sadly, it just snowballed and took over his whole life. You have to know
when to let it go. Every word of this applies equally
to the above wittering of Stadinger? But then they do say you guys don't do
irony!
That aside, the more I read about this conflict,
the more I want to get myself some sets of those Romans and Barbarians. Me too! Race you to ebay.it
See other comment below.
admin says:
April 24, 2017 at 8:55 AM
I surprised that I have only the one figure. (yet you feel it's right to attack me for only one - too
funny) It will be something I will be looking for as well.
I have decided to no longer bother with him as I too many other things in life to do. That turned out to be another lie! Didn't it?
I have decided to no longer bother with him as I too many other things in life to do. That turned out to be another lie! Didn't it?
erwin says:
April 24, 2017 at 9:17 AM
COMA space,romans and Viking or barbarians as well
musketeers ,Knights and marine infantry-not sailors sets are the hardest to get
complete.I do not know why if less produced or what .
I got most set complete minus musketeers and knights
The Viking were sold with a ship too. I have it, just missing craft sail,boat is about 12″ long with oars and made of plastic.
COMA before do kits cars and airplanes launch a series of early 1900s all plastic cars ,very nice in 1.32 scale great for gangsters era scenes .These are more common around ,is from this line they made some boats and ships too in simple plastic few pieces attached together.
best… If I possessed an Erwin-to-English translator - I'd probably manage a pithy comment here!
I got most set complete minus musketeers and knights
The Viking were sold with a ship too. I have it, just missing craft sail,boat is about 12″ long with oars and made of plastic.
COMA before do kits cars and airplanes launch a series of early 1900s all plastic cars ,very nice in 1.32 scale great for gangsters era scenes .These are more common around ,is from this line they made some boats and ships too in simple plastic few pieces attached together.
best… If I possessed an Erwin-to-English translator - I'd probably manage a pithy comment here!
Darren Hatley says:
April 24, 2017 at 4:05 PM
As ive said before, I have the Coma/Ex-res Vikings
and Romans, The Vikings are really nice figures with Good detail and are 55mm
tall. The Romans on the other hand look like recasts to me, The detail isn,t so
good and they are about 48mm tall. I will have to dig them out and give more
detail if I can. (you guessed 48mm without digging
them out? Erwin!)
As far as Hugh Walters attacks on me, And saying I dont exist (yawn - I didn't, I suggested you 'might not' following a conversation with someone else!), I feel I should make a comment here. I think its a weird thing to say and quite funny really. I dont know what hes problem is and I am who I say I am. Im just a guy from England in my 40s who collects, Converts and Paints Toy Soldiers and who likes to regularly come onto this site to see what figures are being talked about, What New figures are coming out, And to talk with like minded indeviduals about this Great hobby. Although ive never met him Erwin has known me for at least 10 to 15 years and im on Facebook. I like Mysteries and Conspiracy theories, But im not a member of the Majestic 12 Lol. I wont be mentioning Mr Hugh Walters anymore, As Paul says lets draw the line under this. The more you say - the less I'm inclined to believe you! You're certainly sharing a keyboard with the other two, or don't they have spall-chockar in Norfolk!
As far as Hugh Walters attacks on me, And saying I dont exist (yawn - I didn't, I suggested you 'might not' following a conversation with someone else!), I feel I should make a comment here. I think its a weird thing to say and quite funny really. I dont know what hes problem is and I am who I say I am. Im just a guy from England in my 40s who collects, Converts and Paints Toy Soldiers and who likes to regularly come onto this site to see what figures are being talked about, What New figures are coming out, And to talk with like minded indeviduals about this Great hobby. Although ive never met him Erwin has known me for at least 10 to 15 years and im on Facebook. I like Mysteries and Conspiracy theories, But im not a member of the Majestic 12 Lol. I wont be mentioning Mr Hugh Walters anymore, As Paul says lets draw the line under this. The more you say - the less I'm inclined to believe you! You're certainly sharing a keyboard with the other two, or don't they have spall-chockar in Norfolk!
George Albany says:
April 25, 2017 at 6:09 PM
Y’know, the last time Hugh Walter was mentioned
here, I looked at his site, figured I’d see what he was talking about. Seems to
me that he gets awfully upset about toy soldiers, who made them, and what other
people have to say about it. For cryin’ out loud, it’s a hobby, not nuclear
science. I really don’t care what company made some relatively obscure figures,
and if I did, I think I’d respond to the person I disagreed with by saying,
“Erwin/Dareen/Mark/Paul, etc., I don’t think you are right. I think company B not
company A made those Romans/Vikings/Germans/Waterloo figures.” (You're forgetting Stad bans commentators as quick as he
begs his mates to comment!) Heck, this is supposed to be fun. A little
good natured disagreement is fine, I often have good natured disagreements with
friends who share other hobbies and sometimes, it can be interesting. Life is
too short to get your blood pressure up over your hobby. Or so I think. Every word of this applies equally to the above wittering
of Stadinger? But then they do say you guys don't do irony!
Have you two met?
George, this is Mark T, Mark - meet
George Albany! You're both deliberately missing the point (out of misplaced
loyalty to Stadinger?). Apart from the Basa
post all mine have been in response to, as rebuttals of, or defending myself
from the attacks of Stads and Erwin and/or their confused lies and made-up
bullshit! And this post of Stadinger actually proves my Basa post was correct.
Wayne W says:
April 26, 2017 at 12:26 AM
I guess I would feel special as my comments have
seem to have aroused Hugh’s ire. I said I “would” feel special except that
about everyone who has commented on this site has drawn a response (if you comment you are choosing to get involved, if you
throw a rock at someone, there are no rules limiting him to only throwing a
rock back, he may chose to shoot your knees off, slit your gizzard and peg you
out for the vultures after covering your genitals in gravy, that's the gamble
you take when you chose to throw the rock - all's fair in love and war, Stads
and Erwin declared war on 17th December last, they're just not very good at
fighting it). So I’m part of the PSTSM, are there dues? Meetings? Do we
have a secret handshake? I'll explain in a
forthcoming post - but only you can decide if you're in it . . . or out of it.
For the most part, I’m going to follow George’s and
my own advice and not let this get to me. Life is too short and I’ve been on
“given” – or “borrowed” time the last thirty-five years as it is – it kind of
puts things in perspective.
The only reason I even mention Hugh’s post (in
which he did misquote me at least once (no I didn't!
I quoted you in full, once, by cutting and pasting your comment in its entirety 'with
all faults' just as I have here)) is I feel I owe Hugh an apology over
the “in the cups” remarks – which, like another comment were meant in the
spirit of trying to lighten the mood. I seem to recall Hugh mentioning tossing
a few on another forum, but it’s been awhile and that site is no longer with us
so I cannot check and make sure it was him or another. As it is I seem to have
offended or hit a nerve – in either case I apologize. And I’m posting here
because here is where I committed the offense. Apology
accepted, now stay out of this for fucks sake - I know you’re a nice guy . . .
really!
I have to admit I haven’t touched an “adult
beverage” in decades. As another has said, “I didn’t like the person I became
when I drank – and folks around me didn’t, either.” Besides, a guy who was
declared dead from banging his head in a parachute accident probably doesn’t
need to drink anyway.
As I said, I will follow my own advice and not let
the nasty dudes get me down. No, Hugh, I DIDN’T use the “word.” I’m surprised
you think that makes me a “wuss.” I had to use profanity as an Army NCO because
most of the time my troops didn’t take me seriously if I didn’t punctuate my
instructions with a four letter word here and there; but the idea of having to
cuss to be a man, well, I kind of grew out of that somewhere shortly after high
school. It’s a shame we are separated by thousands of miles and can communicate
only online, otherwise we might be better able to take better stock of each
other. Wayne - stop digging . . . please?
As it is, right now I feel like George Segal
watching Liz and Dick tear into each other online. Maybe everyone needs to back
off in a corner and count ten? I know I will. Just
watch from the sidelines; 'my people' (if there is such a thing) are content to
watch!
'Dick tear'? Eeeessh!
'Dick tear'? Eeeessh!
admin says:
April 26, 2017 at 9:27 AM
Wayne as I said in my post of I done with Hugh. I
feel I have done enough for people to realize what kind of person he is. I know
he will go around besmirching Erwin’s and my reptuations. I am going to waste
anymore time on him (you already have! Twice).
I have far more important things to do.
Wayne W says:
April 26, 2017 at 4:42 PM
I believe that is a wise course, Paul. Pity he couldn't stick to it!
Bill Nevins says:
April 26, 2017 at 12:42 PM
Could not agree more, Paul.
Not worth the time or effort. Whatever . . . missed the bus on that one Bill, he attacked me again twice while I was trying to take Wayne's "count ten".
Not worth the time or effort. Whatever . . . missed the bus on that one Bill, he attacked me again twice while I was trying to take Wayne's "count ten".
Dennis DeRusha says:
April 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM
Hi Stad, read your piece on Hugh. He sounds like a
complete and utter fool. Somewhere in England a village has lost its idiot.Take
care and keep up the good work
Tanks Dennis DeRusha You should comment more often Dennis, try and add some colour to the five-out-of-seven-are-Erwin's comments! Oh, and you're an ignorant cunt! You're the little rat-shit with the knife at the back of the gang, only stepping-in when you think it's safe to do so; cunty-little-cunt-like.
Tanks Dennis DeRusha You should comment more often Dennis, try and add some colour to the five-out-of-seven-are-Erwin's comments! Oh, and you're an ignorant cunt! You're the little rat-shit with the knife at the back of the gang, only stepping-in when you think it's safe to do so; cunty-little-cunt-like.
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. . .I'll drop the green
. . .
"Conspiracy
. . . Bogus . . . Alternative Media", it's the language of Trump's
dwindling inner-circle! The language of Fox News and Breitbart! Too funny, too
fucking-funny for words. Was he picking what he thought looked to be suitable
phrases out of the National Enquirer!!!
Something else which comes across very strongly
above; humourlessness; half of it goes over his head like an aeroplane, the
other half is taken literally! "He
calls me the Penn State Toy Soldier Mafia", too funny! Then there's the drama-queen semantics; "Reprehensible . . . Evil Entity . . . So many levels"! Oh God! The world will end if someone doesn't do something about me!
To which must be added the constant hypocrisy, attacking my
one figure yet expecting the world to accept everything he attaches to his,
denying comments he's made, calling me a conspiracist even as he adds a third
layer of confused bullshit to their Basa
falsehoods and guesswork, calling me a bully when it's two of them with the
PSTSM in tow! Attacking me for 'going off-subject', then going off-subject! The
irony is totally lost on him, he lectures 'the reader' on the damage I might be
doing to my Blog or reputation, with no nod to the fact he's doing the same,
first, in an illiterate, nonsensical scrawl!
As a matter of fact, because 6-700 of you pretend I
don't exist, or that you haven't found my Blog despite visiting every day (and
nicking lots of images - eh? Soft Mirof - you know you can get little blue
pills for that now?), or are [probably] too embarrassed by my antics to want to
acknowledge me; I don't have a 'reputation' to worry about - bargain!
AND - unlike Stadinger - I have no delusions as to
my place in the great scheme of things; future worm-food walking, that's me,
that's all of us.
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If you're struggling to understand or follow the developments in this saga - one
battle in a war - here's a quick, simplified round-up;
He who makes it up as he goes along; one Erwin Sell,
originally posted a thread on Forum Gratuit le soldatplastique-1-32, in which he
lectured with his usual unreadable style about Basa and claimed the figures accompanying the lecture were Basa's, manufactured by Basa in Peru - they weren't, they were
marked, Res Plastic's (RP) figures, from Italy; ethylene
piracies of styrene Coma originals.
Because of the on-going war with this pair of
numpties, I posted to that effect and further pointed out that Basa were a Jobber/Importer, not
specifically a manufacturer (although they did manufacture, especially latterly;
big, brash polypropylene infant toys in the 2000's), adding that Erwin was
making it up as he went along - again.
The terrible two then posted their 'Hugh Walter Strikes and Misses Again'
post ([ http://www.stadsstuff.com/?p=8882 ] - I haven't missed yet), in which - using a second set
of figures with dodgy hex-driver melt-marks approximately where the RP signs should be (?!) - they denied that
Erwin had been using RP figures.
Erwin then went back to FGle1:32 and tried to
drag them into it, posting the new figures, but leaving the old images up!
Meanwhile someone was drawing to my attention that the RP figure moulds went to DSG,
who are in South America, but Argentina, not Peru.
I then posted my 'Hugh Walter Strikes and Hits Again' post, in which I used a
screen-cap of Erwin's figure to show he was now lying (some more), and pointing
out that they were now showing those new figures, the mixed, confused nature of
the post, the greater confusion in the comments and Erwin even seeming to admit
to confusion in one comment.
We then got the Stad's Stuff post (reproduced above
with annotations), in which he switches allegiance to the Coma originals, admitting (without even realising it) that I was
right all along (so he should now apologise for the 'Strikes Again' shit - no,
of course he won't!) by contradicting everything said (as fact) in both Erwin's
original thread on FGle1:32 and everything in their joint 'Strikes Again'
post on Stad's Stuff. YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!
Now - some facts . . . err . . . some more drivellous
diatribe!
Coma in
Italy made some toy Romans, they were (apparently!) 55mm tall and they are
(brittle) polystyrene plastic, have separate plug-in weapons and are highly
sought-after, especially in Italy. There is a metallic maroon original on page
five of the Plastic Warrior 'Roman
Special' publication with minimal silver-paint highlights and a silver standard-bearer
on page 9, unpainted.
Res
Plastics also Italian (with the RP-in-a-circle mark) copied them some years later in golden or
gunmetal polyethylene - among other colours, these were smaller (50-odd mm) and
have integrally-moulded weapons and some pose changes/simplifications to assist
moulding - separate weapons allow for more complicated posing/undercuts. They
were quite common a few years ago. You can find examples on page five
(gunmetal) and page 35 (red - possibly carried by DS/Mehanotechnika - and
gold) of the above-mentioned publication.
A third set of figures has appeared with strange
hex-bit shaped depressions in them.
The Res
Plastics moulds were sold to DSG
in Argentina, who may or may not have run them, may or may not have supplied Basa, and may or may not have removed
the RP-mark before or after any
number of mould-runs.
Basa
imported or carried toy figures.
Basa
may have carried the Coma figures (60-something
years ago ) as Paul Stadinger maintains above?
Basa
may have carried the smaller, strange figures with hex-bit melt-holes (but when?),
as they both maintained in their 'Strikes Again' post? These may be ex-Res from DSG?
Basa
may have carried the RP figures (within
the last 20/25 years) shown in the orginal FGle1:32 scale thread? But they
didn't make them, if they did carry them they may have got them from
either RP or DSG
The Coma
figures date from the 1950's
The RP
figures date from the 1990/2000's (as RP)
or possibly later (as DSG), they were
common on the early toy soldier sites back at the start of the 'Web.
I can't say anything about the third set with the
hex-bit holes - if they are even a 3rd type? They are however - suspicious!
That's not conspiracy, that's fact.
Basa did not manufacture the figures
originally used by Erwin in his FGle1:32 thread with the RP mark.
. .. ---====================--- .. .
Neither Erwin nor Paul Standinger in their three
threads/posts have proven or shown with any serious evidence whatsoever which
of the three (?) figure types were actually carried by Basa, they have failed to explain when these figures were 'carried'
(there's 50-60 years between the potential dates) and have failed to prove any
evidence of production by Basa.
Stad has proven that his Roman is Coma!
I have proven that Erwin's original figures (and
mine) are Res Plastics
They have in fact both/each now passed two
different sets of figures off as being made/manufactured by Basa. Erwin starting with pictures of the
RP's and changing to hex-bit holes in
the 'Strikes Again' post while Stadinger joined-in with hex-bit holes, changing
to Coma here/above. All three types
being delivered - separately - as THE ones, as fact! I've already said
you can't make this shit up.
That is - of course - ignoring the greater
confusion hidden in the 'Strikes Again' post and its comments section (as
highlighted in my rebuttal) to keep it simple here.
They have both contradicted themselves, and each
other, and proved my original point correct; that Erwin on FGle1:32 was making it up
as he goes along again.
They have now both been making it up as they go
along for some time. And if Erwin's original claim to have been in correspondence
with Basa carried any weight he would
have had the evidence to close this down months ago, but like his Blue Box factory visits; which his own
'research' in December proved to be false (with one factory closing before he
was born and another closing while he was an infant - something I'd suggested
back in October of last year); the Basa
correspondence too; was just bullshit, made-up as he went along.
He's been using the same trope with DGN Hing Fat recently . . . but that's for
another post.
And here's the news - I don't know or particularly care
which figures Basa made, imported or
carried, or when, there are very good South American collectors who will sort
that out.
But I do know Erwin started with a false
premise, pontificated bullshit on FGle1:32, made it up as he went
along - again - and the Jabbering Fuck joined-in to protect his cock-wackin',
chattering, pet monkey-lizard, neither of them know, either . . . nor did they ever
- they just won't admit it!
. .. ---====================--- .. .
Here's a thought - They have - between the pair of
them - most of the RP figures, most
of the Coma figures and the rather
dodgy hex-bit hole figures. If they had got together and posted a comparison
article with all of them, mentioning all the connections with the odd
'probably', 'maybe' or question mark, a couple of sweeping generalisations and
no facts they couldn't prove (the sort of articles I do here occasionally), it
would have been a super post, one we all would have enjoyed, learned from and
downloaded to our files, linked too in the future, returned to for reference .
. .
. . . but instead, Erwin went and made some Basa shit up as he went along (again!),
on a third-party site, Stadinger defended him and they've since dug a deeper
and deeper and deeper hole which only serves to advertise the fact they knew
nothing detailed about Basa, its
history, or its product inventory, but wanted to be believed, as experts on Basa, anyway! Now they've confused the
issue to the Nth degree, such an article would add nothing.
As I've said before it's all risible stuff, beyond
parody, but at least Standinger now agrees with me that the figures Erwin said
were Peruvian production; weren’t!
That's the 'conspiracy', a construct made of
damp-paper, scribbled-on with wax-crayons by two infantile loons; one of lies
and deceits, self-delusions, self-aggrandisement, arse-covering and
Barry-bullshitting by two fucktards who contradict each-other and themselves.
And; can someone PLEASE show them how a spellchecker
works - Christ; it's hard going!
Is that 14 pages of "diatribe drivel"? I hope so.
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