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I’m a 60-year-old Aspergic gardening CAD-Monkey. Sardonic, cynical and with the political leanings of a social reformer, I’m also a toy and model figure collector, particularly interested in the history of plastics and plastic toys. Other interests are history, current affairs, modern art, and architecture, gardening and natural history. I love plain chocolate, fireworks and trees, but I don’t hug them, I do hug kittens. I hate ignorance, when it can be avoided, so I hate the 'educational' establishment and pity the millions they’ve failed with teaching-to-test and rote 'learning' and I hate the short-sighted stupidity of the entire ruling/industrial elite, with their planet destroying fascism and added “buy-one-get-one-free”. Likewise, I also have no time for fools and little time for the false crap we're all supposed to pretend we haven't noticed, or the games we're supposed to play. I will 'bite the hand that feeds', to remind it why it feeds.

Sunday, August 1, 2021

F is for Follow-Up - Native American Zulus!

Well, it is the first day of Rack Toy Month and while I will try to keep up the current output, I have had a lazy week on emptying a house, so at some point I must concentrate more on real life and trying to find the deeds in a pile of paperwork which if stacked A4 would be over eight-feet tall!

While I was preparing the article we saw the other day (three posts down the page) Chris Smith was A) taking delivery of more figures (and a carded set!) and B) putting his thinking cap on, which resulted in a hypothesis I think has wings, and a quick trip into the attic this morning to see if I could add anything, which I could, but not much!

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;
So, the smaller set of clones now have a 'set' set - if you know what I mean. Chris was worried about the title, but I think - within the context of the time - it's OK to see, I was worried, when he first mentioned it, that it might include the other n-word, I've seen children's annuals from the 1920's which contain appallingly racist stuff, so Negro Fighters is pretty tame for what was a rack-toy which may date back to the late 1950's?

It can be taken as offensive though, Wikipedia says - "In the English language, negro is a term historically used to denote persons considered to be of Black African heritage. The term can be construed as offensive, inoffensive, or completely neutral, largely depending on the region or country where it is used. It has various equivalents in other languages of Europe." so is presented here within its historical context and for research purposes only, neither the author nor the contributor condone it's everyday use. In Spanish it is the word for black.

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;
A close-up of the really quite charming artwork and a shot of the figures in situ; note we now see/have the crouching guy in the smaller set, which takes the pose count to seven for both sized sets or 22 to find for a one of each with the originals, still considerably more with plastic and paint variations.

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;
But why are we also looking at two Native Americans (top left)? I'll let Chris tell it: "By now you will have spotted the two figures top left in [the] photo 1 and be wondering why they are included. I had had that Indian in brown a couple of times in mixed lots and always put him in with Wild West lots of early Hong Kong copies of British figures for resale. Then when I got the two black larger version warriors there was that Indian in black as well, on checking, the base mark is the same as the warriors and the paint for both the black and brown versions . . . So my theory is that this Indian pose was the 8th pose, what do you think? Hard to prove until a bag/boxed set turns up."

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;
I think he's right! And it was 'off to the attic' to see if I could find any as I had an idea I might have one somewhere? First stop was the Unknown Wild West Box 2, which is not supposed to have Britains' poses in it, but does if they are part of a mixed-origins set or 'lot'. I found two in a smallish sample, obviously I've only been collecting the larger scales for twelve or so years, but I still managed to find two (marked with asterisks).

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;
However . . . neither quite fitted the bill! One is much smaller and unmarked the other has a faint 'made in Hong Kong' mark in a different font and a bunch of likewise -marked Wild West mates, so it was back to the drawing board - or attic! Note that both have their Britains feather-headdress reproduced.

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;
Turning to a temporary box which got half-emptied in the course of this morning's antics as all the swoppet-copies were 'swapped-out' to a new box with only swoppets in! I managed to find one in a bag by himself!

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;
This is he, and he's also from the larger Zulu type, going by the base mark, the point to note is that there is a definite attempt to created a more African style top-knot instead of the American's headdress, not quite the full quoit, but aiming there?

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;
Chris's pair, one black, one brown, no matching Wild West, it all adds up to an eighth figure / ninth-pose in this range of originals and clones! And while he's right that it will take the finding of a set to confirm, its absence from the obvious set; the Past The Post set seen here, helps firm-up my own theory vis-à-vis that being the eventual/likely brand for the larger set of 'Zulus'.

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;
Chris's are also both from the larger set, so two paces forward, one pace back, are we looking for the same figure in the smaller set and could it be the unmarked one from my unknowns (feathers say 'no'!) or will it, too, have the upper-surface base mark we looked at the other day?

Questions, questions!

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;

While I had them all out I shot this chap, in the hope that flushed with these minor victories (and that carded smaller set which is a proper victory!), we might be able to find out something about this Britains 'Herald' Hong Kong copy. He has a separate knife unlike the donor, which is similar to but heavier than the Timpo knife and has something 'late Italian' about his production values, think Dulcop or all that Kinder/Giodi/CGGC stuff?

Five days later (6th August; early hours) . . . 

African Barers; African Bearers; African Natives; African Toy Figures; African Warrior Toy; African Warriors; Britains Swoppets; Charbens; Clones; Copies; Hong Kong; Indians; Lone Star; Made in Hong Kong; Native American; Native Costumes; Negro Fighters; Past The Post; Piracies; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Zulus;

Literally sat there looking at me while I edited this and the previous post on the subject! He must have come-in with the other four additions, but not knowing Chris's theory, I'd sorted him out with the other Wild West and he was still waiting on the chest of drawers to go in the Wild West TBS box!
 

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