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I’m a 58-year-old Aspergic gardening CAD-Monkey. Sardonic, cynical and with the political leanings of a social reformer, I’m also a toy and model figure collector, particularly interested in the history of plastics and plastic toys. Other interests are history, current affairs, modern art, and architecture, gardening and natural history. I love plain chocolate, fireworks and trees but I don’t hug them, I do hug kittens. I hate ignorance, when it can be avoided, so I hate the 'educational' establishment and pity the millions they’ve failed with teaching-to-test and rote 'learning' and I hate the short-sighted stupidity of the entire ruling/industrial elite, with their planet destroying fascism and added “buy-one-get-one-free”. I also have no time for fools and little time for the false crap we're all supposed to pretend we haven't noticed, or the games we're supposed to play. I will 'bite the hand that feeds' to remind it why it feeds.

Sunday, November 27, 2022

E is for Eastern Promise - How They Come In

For reasons which should be obvious (but sadly don't seem to be for the uneducated), we're not looking at one eastern country's stuff at the moment, and I hope there's none here, but as part of Chris's recent donation to the Blog was a number of smaller scale or outside 'area of interest' to his own collection stuff which we are looking at in a single post here. Everything below is soft polyethylene plastic.

Airfix; Ancient Britons; Army Tanks; Atlantic Custer; Custer's Last Stand; Flats; French Bazaar Figures; Hungarian Manufacturer; Hungarian Plastic Toys; Hungarian Toy Soldiers; Hungary; Kassa György; Knights In Armour; Lew Prokofijev; Made In Hungary; Mini Tanks; Napoleonic Toy Soldiers; Plastic Toy Soldiers; Progress; Semi Flat Soldiers; Semi Flats; Semi-Flats; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Tanks; Toy Soldiers;
These are lovely! They are almost exactly the same size as the bubble-gum capsule tanks we looked at again recently, now the lot of Chris's from which these came, was a Hungarian lot and various clues suggest the bulk of it was Hungarian, so for now that's the 'call' on these!

As you can see; four parts with two little wheel/axle sets and loosely based on a late pattern T34/85, but when I say loosely I mean loosely! They look like Dalek copies of a K9 unit!

Airfix; Ancient Britons; Army Tanks; Atlantic Custer; Custer's Last Stand; Flats; French Bazaar Figures; Hungarian Manufacturer; Hungarian Plastic Toys; Hungarian Toy Soldiers; Hungary; Kassa György; Knights In Armour; Lew Prokofijev; Made In Hungary; Mini Tanks; Napoleonic Toy Soldiers; Plastic Toy Soldiers; Progress; Semi Flat Soldiers; Semi Flats; Semi-Flats; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Tanks; Toy Soldiers;
Now, Peter Evans gave me several of these, years ago with the message that they were Bulgarian, and with figures only, there was no reason to question that attribution (which would have come with the figures from the seller/hander-on), however, seeing the horses here, and knowing what Hungarian flats/semi-flats tend to look like against their neighbour's output/s, these may well be Hungarian, not just because of the origin of the lots, but those chunky eye-shaped bases.

And this is not to call anyone 'wrong', just to adjust the theory to fit the available evidence, and, indeed; I think I may have some more horses somewhere, which is useful as Chris sent a few sets of mounted legs, so when I've put them (Peter's, Chris's, spare horses) all together we'll have another look, and if it's a few years from now, we may have more empirical stuff by then - packaging maybe?

Airfix; Ancient Britons; Army Tanks; Atlantic Custer; Custer's Last Stand; Flats; French Bazaar Figures; Hungarian Manufacturer; Hungarian Plastic Toys; Hungarian Toy Soldiers; Hungary; Kassa György; Knights In Armour; Lew Prokofijev; Made In Hungary; Mini Tanks; Napoleonic Toy Soldiers; Plastic Toy Soldiers; Progress; Semi Flat Soldiers; Semi Flats; Semi-Flats; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Tanks; Toy Soldiers;
The odd's, now another reason for not accepting 'Hungary' willy-nilly as the origin for all of them are the facts that A) there was a few bits of Western stuff, including some Kinder, in the bag, and B) we've already learnt Progress had factories in Rus, and Bulgaria for certain, and I've been told, Poland and East Germany too, so some of this stuff, or the tools, were passed around the WarPact Bloc.

The three mounted figures are nice; a knight and two native American Indians, and match the ancient Romans I've been told were Hungarian, and which usually appear on Hungarian seller's feeds, note the same heavy eye-shaped bases again. While the racing [game?] figure looks eastern too.

But the white plastic French Foreign Legion figure could be either from the Soviet Bloc or French bazaar production? Likewise the yellow driver could be from anywhere, but both might well be Hungarian?

I think the large blue knigh knight may be from further to the East (Booo! Slava Ukraine!), he's a Lido copy/homage, with a touch of paint, but chunkier than the Hong Kong copies we've previously seen here at Small Scale World.

Airfix; Ancient Britons; Army Tanks; Atlantic Custer; Custer's Last Stand; Flats; French Bazaar Figures; Hungarian Manufacturer; Hungarian Plastic Toys; Hungarian Toy Soldiers; Hungary; Kassa György; Knights In Armour; Lew Prokofijev; Made In Hungary; Mini Tanks; Napoleonic Toy Soldiers; Plastic Toy Soldiers; Progress; Semi Flat Soldiers; Semi Flats; Semi-Flats; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Tanks; Toy Soldiers;
I'm pretty sure these are Hungarian, and further that we visited them briefly when we looked at the Atlantic Fort Riley/Abilene Town a while back (follow the link in that post), and have a possible/probably mark; Kassa György (house of George/George's house/firm? Or; Gregory?) courtesy of Kadmon, the commenter/contributor then.

Airfix; Ancient Britons; Army Tanks; Atlantic Custer; Custer's Last Stand; Flats; French Bazaar Figures; Hungarian Manufacturer; Hungarian Plastic Toys; Hungarian Toy Soldiers; Hungary; Kassa György; Knights In Armour; Lew Prokofijev; Made In Hungary; Mini Tanks; Napoleonic Toy Soldiers; Plastic Toy Soldiers; Progress; Semi Flat Soldiers; Semi Flats; Semi-Flats; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Tanks; Toy Soldiers;
These are copies of Atlantic's 7th cavalry from the General Custer sets, they are larger than the original 1:72nd scale set, so probably reduced from the 1:32nd scale figures, although as Kassa György copied the fort, they may have worked exclusively with the smaller range?

Note that there are two poses of horse is present; these have two distinctly different base types, with three stars on the rim of the heavier, formal cartouche sculpts, or thinner unmarked 'cloud' bases.

Airfix; Ancient Britons; Army Tanks; Atlantic Custer; Custer's Last Stand; Flats; French Bazaar Figures; Hungarian Manufacturer; Hungarian Plastic Toys; Hungarian Toy Soldiers; Hungary; Kassa György; Knights In Armour; Lew Prokofijev; Made In Hungary; Mini Tanks; Napoleonic Toy Soldiers; Plastic Toy Soldiers; Progress; Semi Flat Soldiers; Semi Flats; Semi-Flats; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Tanks; Toy Soldiers;
A nice set which probably isn't Hungarian, being the sort of output more closely associated with Poland, but I've recently learnt from Maciej Jasinski (who's writing a book on the subject) that some of the stuff credited with Poland, was actually imported from East Germany (common borders between the three), so until the book comes out, I'll just sprinkle a light dusting of question marks over these!

Airfix; Ancient Britons; Army Tanks; Atlantic Custer; Custer's Last Stand; Flats; French Bazaar Figures; Hungarian Manufacturer; Hungarian Plastic Toys; Hungarian Toy Soldiers; Hungary; Kassa György; Knights In Armour; Lew Prokofijev; Made In Hungary; Mini Tanks; Napoleonic Toy Soldiers; Plastic Toy Soldiers; Progress; Semi Flat Soldiers; Semi Flats; Semi-Flats; Small Scale World; smallscaleworld.blogspot.com; Tanks; Toy Soldiers;
Obviously copies of the old Airfix Celtic war-band Ancient Britons, the archer had escaped from the pack during the sorting phase and so isn't in all the shots! The card shows ancient Greek/Trojan types and maker/brand is the Polish kiosk supplier Lew Prokofijev, the Polish spelling of Prokofiev.

So many thanks to Chris for this little lot, fills a few gaps and builds a better picture of the Hungarian end of things even if it's not all Hungarian, and thanks to Kadmon  and Maciej again for their help in the past/elsewhere.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

I remember I seen these Atlantic copies in Hungary in 1980's! Definitely out of scale, but I've seen something like fort with them - was it copy of Fort Riley by Atlantic, I'm not sure any more. Probably it was, as if it was something else I would buy it (I had fort Riley already)...

Hugh Walter said...

Yes, if you follow the link to Fort Riley/Abiline, then follow the link to the Hungarian page you'll see it as Fort Henry or Fort Danielson.

H